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Let me know next time your in town to herf with awsmith4, I'll bring some bourbons for ya to try. :dr

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Will do brother :tu

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You pick it out and hit me up when your headed my direction and we'll meet up. I'll try anything once so surprise me. :tu

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Like I said earlier, I'm there for sure Christmas. It's Christmas with her family this year. Friend request and PM sent bro...

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OK I just won a bottle of this hope it's all that you say. Will let you know what I think once I get the bottle.

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MYSELF! My everything store is conspicuously STAGG-less,
and they, as I said, have everything. Bummed me out, cause I had my lil list
and all. But it's nice once in a while to have a white whale to hunt. :(

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Can anyone assist me in buying a bottle of Willet's. It isn't distributed in GA.:sh

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Have you try Eagle Rare 10 yet? It's my to go bourbon and it's not expensive. Cost about 26ish.

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Which Willets....not that it matters I can get all of them. PM sent.

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Very good for the price. In that price range, Buffalo Trace is my favorite.

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I was just looking through ABC[Alabama Beverage Control] Liquor Price List and according to it I should be able to get Eagle Rare and (I assume you're meaning Red Stagg by Jim Beam?) in the ABC stores. I haven't been to the main store in my county in a few months but I'll go check it out.

Oh and the Eagle Rare it lists is Single Barrel.

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+1...another great bourbon for sipping and mixing.
I drink a lot of Mint Julep during the summer.

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Tonight's line up was:

-Four Roses Single Barrel
-George T Stagg 07
-Evan Williams Single Barrel
-Ending the night with Four Roses 120th

Was a good night for bourbon this evening.

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Apparently the ABC store has started carrying a few more things since my last visit. Basil Hayden, Buffalo Trace. Top of the shelf was something called Booker T(I think turkey 101 has the memory right now) it was in a wooden glass top box price point of about $58 l again from memory anybody heard of this one?

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As I recall, Booker being a Kentucky Bourbon. They used to have Batch Bourbons that were outstanding and could quickly knock you on your ass. If I recall, they were in the 120/125 proof range and fairly expensive. I don't know if Booker T is from the same company.

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All bourbons are from Kentucky. Not sure about a Booker T, google shows no real results. My guess is it was Bookers. I like Baker's and Weller Barrel proof for the uncut, unfiltered bourbons. HIGH proof bourbons are my favorites 110+ proof is mostly all I like to drink.

Four Roses 120th :dr:dr:dr. Wish I had more, great stuff :tu:tu

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Do NOT buy Jim Beam Red Stagg. Its a cherry flavored bourbon, not even cheap shot worthy.

When we say Stagg, we mean George T Stagg, from Buffalo Traces Antique Collection. Do a google search for it. Me and awsmith4 drank some last night (thanks again bro) and my GOD it will warm you from the core out. It is GOOD. :dr

The Eagle Rare is a 10 yr and is a very good bourbon. should cost around 35 or so and is worth it.

The others you listed, all pretty good, Basil Hayden I like when I want something milder. If you have any questions, shoot me a message before you buy, I can't in good conscience let a BOTL drink cherry flavored bourbon. :r

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:tpd:

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you may mean Bookers Noe. Did it come in a wooden crate type box with a plastic slide lid front? If so, it should be around 48 a bottle and is Cask Strength, meaning it has not been watered. This is why it costs more. This is a bourbon that is great for experimenting with. Seeing how water aids in blossoming. Add a few drops, try it. add a few more, try it again. Taste the difference. Add a cube, see how it changes. One of my favorites to get someone new to bourbon to decide how they like to drink it. Anything Cask, or Barrel strength can be done this way. I never recommend over rocks though, the ice will dilute too much. Try this...

First drink upon opening the bottle, pour straight and try it...if you like it, there you go.

If it's too strong, try a quick drizzle of good water. Try again. Still don't like it, add a cube, you should be good from there. You kinda get to be your own blend master.

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That would be it wood box with plastic slide top. Don't worry I'm not going near the flavored stuff Now that we have Buffalo Trace I'll keep an eye out for the Antique Collection.:tu

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Cherry flavored bourbon?!?!? My god I didn't know such awful things existed....probably for the better.

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My pleasure brother and agreed, Stagg is some tasty, toasty stuff :)

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Someone mentioned above that all bourbon is from Kentucky. this is not entirely true. Taken from Wiki:

Bourbon is an American whiskey, a type of distilled spirit, made primarily from corn (maize) and named for Bourbon County, Kentucky. It has been produced since the 18th century. While it may be made anywhere in the United States, it is strongly associated with the Commonwealth of Kentucky.

On May 4, 1964, the United States Congress recognized Bourbon Whiskey as a "distinctive product of the United States." The Federal Standards of Identity for Distilled Spirits (27 C.F.R. 5.22) state that bourbon must meet these requirements:

* Bourbon must be made of a grain mixture that is at least 51% corn.[1]
* Bourbon must be distilled to no more than 160 (U.S.) proof (80% alcohol by volume).
* Neither coloring nor flavoring may be added.
* Bourbon must be aged in new, charred oak barrels. [1]
* Bourbon must be entered into the barrel at no more than 125 proof (62.5% alcohol by volume).
* Bourbon, like other whiskeys, may be bottled at not less than 80 proof (40% alcohol by volume.)
* Bourbon that meets the above requirements and has been aged for a minimum of two years may (but is not required to) be called Straight Bourbon.[2]
* Straight Bourbon aged for a period less than four years must be labeled with the duration of its aging.
* If an age is stated on the label, it must be the age of the youngest whiskey in the bottle.
* Only whiskey produced in the United States can be called bourbon.[3]

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Yep. Stagg is great, although I definitely like the Weller of the BTAC much better. That stuff is amazing. Straight (neat), smooth, no heat at first, amazing flavor, then warming of the torso. Awesome stuff.

People also say bourbon has to come from bourbon county...

Virginia Gentleman is a bourbon.

But of course all the good bourbon comes from Kentucky :noon


Just finished some Four Roses Limited 2010 Barrel Strength. Good stuff as well. Very nice.

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I haven't seen ANY bourbon that wasn't from Kentucky, I'm still 99.9% sure no matter what Wikipedia says (really it's not a reliable source, anyone can post in that $hit) that all bourbon MUST have spent at least 2 years in Kentucky. It may say made in "somewhere else" but it must spend at least a few years in the state of Kentucky. Then and again that's just what I've read and learned.

-Bill

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I thought that burbons were made in Kentucky and whiskey in Tennessee but the smokin hot chic in the Jack Daniels trailer told me I was wrong. I think it has something to do with charring the inside of the barrel. It was a few years ago and I was drunk but I think that was it.

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I cannot find anything that supports this 100%, but I have to agree that if it's call a Bourbon, it had to be produce in Bourbon, County KY. Everything else, in that category, is either a Rye, Whiskey or Mash. :2

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From my understanding, if it's made in Kentucky and is at least 51% corn, it can be called bourbon. Anything else is just whiskey.

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That's my understanding as well. But there are some very good bourbons/whiskeys from other places as well. A.H. Hirsh Special Selection 20yr is distilled and aged in Illinois. Michters used to be distilled in Pennsylvania (not sure where it is now) and Stranahans is a really good micro distillery out of Colorado. While yes, location means alot for aging and water source (like they say about Daniels and Kentucky) nothing can overcome the passion and care that the guys in Kentucky put into their bourbons. The pride they have shows in every sip i.e. Four Roses, Buffalo Trace, Heaven Hill etc...

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And has to be aged for at least 2 (maybe 3, can't remember) years in new, charred white oak barrels.

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Been looking for the Stranahans, but not available in Bama (but, we have really moronic people running our ABC board). I have it listed on my iPhone lists of "things to look for", and plan on checking for it in Ft. Lauderdale this week!

Oh, just for clarity, Jack Daniels is Lynchburg, Tennessee. May be the only distillery in a dry county inthe USA!!!

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The Wiki does have good references sometimes.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...T=5&SECTION=22

Jack Daniels charcoal filters their whiskey, and they don't want to be classified as bourbon anyway, so that is why theirs is called TN Whiskey. I believe (although don't have any references) they use a "bourbon" mash, as in over 51% corn. Whiskey can be made anywhere.

Probably because it is not true. There are no distilleries in Bourbon County :)

http://www.straightbourbon.com/articles/ccname.html


See first link:
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...T=5&SECTION=22


These are the cliffs from the StraighBourbon page about the origin:

"When American pioneers pushed west of the Allegheny Mountains following the Revolution, the first counties they founded covered vast regions. One of these original, huge counties was Bourbon, established in 1785 and named after the French royal family. While this vast county was being carved into many smaller ones, early in the 19th century, many people continued to call the region 'Old Bourbon.'

"Located within 'Old Bourbon' was the principal Ohio River port from which whiskey and other products were shipped to market. 'Old Bourbon' was stenciled on the barrels to indicate their port of origin. 'Old Bourbon' whiskey was different because it was the first corn whiskey most people had ever tasted, and they liked it. In time, 'bourbon' became the name for any corn-based whiskey."



Hope that helps :)

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Yeah, reading what I wrote sounds weird, it should read "like Jack Daniels in Tennessee and Kentucky distillers."

I can get Stranahans in Ga but it is pricey, for the cost I'd rather buy BT or Bookers. That being said, it is worth a try, a good (if maybe a bit sharp) bourbon.

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Yea I've been wanting to try Stranahans as well, but it's like $45+ here and I can get some fine bourbon for that price like Jefferson's Reserve Very Old.

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Well this time the you should have gone with the .1% The article that Wiki referenced was straight from the Government website that had the law listed. Bourbon is defined by law not by opinion.

Whiskey can be made anywhere but bourbon can only come from the US (not just Kentucky). Jim Beam is located in Bullitt County, KY and I don't think we have to argue that Beam, Bookers, Knob Creek etc. are bourbons.



Stanahan's Colorado Whiskey was very tasty. Reminded me more of a Scotch than a bourbon but it was good. But I do agree that for the price I am going to choice something else almost every time. The head dude there is the guy who started Flying Dog Brewery as well.

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Yea I heard FD Brewery did the mash and pumped it over, but didn't know the same guy started both. That's my dream. Trying to start a brewpub in a few years, and it would be awesome to start up a distillery at some point.

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Bourbon does NOT have to come from Kentucky. If it is labeled "Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey" then it is from Kentucky. If it is from some other state (there are several others that produce bourbon) then it will say "Texas Straight Bourbon Whiskey" or "Virginia Straight Bourbon Whiskey", etc. Kentucky prides itself and markets itself as being "the" producer of bourbon, but they do not have a 100% monopoly on bourbon.

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I wrote my post above before I saw your response. :)

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I like this thread, Bourbon (whiskey) is good....:banger

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I read here, but never post. but feel this is worth sharing. I got to visit the woodford reserve distillery this past weekend. If you never hve been there make the trip. It was awesome. Fantastic tour. Beautiful area. Very very knowledgeable staff, could talk with them for hours. Also picked up the new masters blend. Its a maple barrel finish in a toasted (not baked) barrel. Its great. hints of maple syrup all over it, but not thick a all. IDK if it justifies the 90 dollar price tag, but its nice to try as a LE type of thing. Pictures will be posted when my gf downloads them from the camera.

i also visited 4 roses while in the area. Wish i could have done all 6 major distillerys. Its amazing the difference in small batch vs mass production. I knew going in the 4 roses wasn't as good (per reviews) but i had never had it. I was deff not for me. they only age their barrels 2 years. its very raw and very fresh. It had a ton of spice to it. Didnt like it. couldn't name the flavor. but not for me.

cant wait to go back and see the rest of the distilleries. luckily the girl is just as excited as I am to go back. Just wish i could bottles the smell of angles share to smell every once in a while.

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Oh yeah the woodford masters collections are great! I agree the price tag is a bit high. I wish they were like $30 cheaper.

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Glad u enjoyed the trip bro! :tu I've never toured distilleries, only wineries.

I've heard good things about Woodford Reserve but also about Four Roses, both are on my list to try

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I have been to almost all of the bourbon distilleries over the past 4 years, since my in-laws moved to Louisville. If you are at all interested in bourbon, these are marvelous places to visit, as you will learn more about the process in an hour there than reading several books on the subject, IMO. Definetly worth the trip!!

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I don't know if anyone is looking for this, but I happened to get an email from SV yesterday. They're selling it for the same $90 price-tag. Got a small allotment, so they may be sold out? :sh

Here's a link in case someone was looking for it. LINK

I'm still a bourbon newb, so I'm taking a pass. With my bourbon rediscovery, I've recently purchased and enjoyed Woodford and Bulleit, and have recently had Makers Mark and Willetts (both :tu :tu). Trying to decide what my next purchase would be. I've read a lot of the beginning of the thread, but it's a lot to catch up on!!! :r

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Well, it's sold out now...hopefully someone was able to grab one. On second thought, I hope I didn't link it when it was already sold out...if so, ;s

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You didn't it was available this morning just didn't have the coin to pick it up :sh

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Well if anyone wants to drive to Ny i can spare a glass or tow, and maybe some dead rolled up plant sticks.

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Driving to New York would be Awesome cause it would mean I am no longer living in Hell Month and could actually afford the time. Raincheck

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I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "they only age their barrels 2 years"

Not sure what blend you were sampling, but the Single Barrel is a 10 yr, and the 2009 Mariage has a 19 yr in it.

4 Roses is my favorite right now, love the the Single Barrel.

I've been wanting to try the Maple Wood finished Master series, but 99 a bottle was a bit stiff for me right now.

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Yea, maybe their run of the mill cheap stuff. But their more expensive bottlings are solid. I'm trying to find a Mariage. Couldn't afford it when we had it, now I want it. The 2010 LE Barrel Strength is very nice. Not amazing but thoroughly enjoyable.

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The Mariage is now discontinued in favor of a new(an recently released) Small Batch LE.

The 2009 Mariage has a 19 yo in it. Great stuff.