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This has absolutely nothing to do with "Apple mentality" for me. Just because I think this is a tempest in a teapot doesn't mean it's 'blindly accepting' anything at all. It has nothing to do with a specific attitude toward Apple. My blackberry has similar behavior, but I also don't think they should be giving me a new one. People think there are only "Apple Fanboys" and "Apple Haters" in the world. I suspect you'd find that most people are far less passionate about the company, and simply enjoy the nice products (or not), but they don't spend their time posting on message boards about it. Don't think for a minute that all the fanboys and haters on the internet are representative of the larger population (you know, that 99% of people who aren't complaining about this :)) Let me guess, you don't even have an iPhone 4, do you? (by the way, I just happen to like ponies :D) |
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Your phone is defective? Take it back, get a refund. When new hardware comes out, go buy it. Jobs can't replace a phone today, there is nothing to replace it with. |
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My iPhone has the issue. I have dropped calls because of it. Mostly it just causes bad reception when talking on the phone normally (digitalized voice), but if I am using headphones, it likes to drop the calls do to the way I hold it. I can get it to go from 5 bars to one on demand.
There, now you all know someone with the problem. |
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My wife and I got our new iPhones the day they came out. I have not had ANY issues at all with reception or dropped calls since having the phone. I use it heavily on a daily basis. My wife's phone had issues with reception however. Naturally she holds her phone by the bottom whereas I hold mine by the side.
We were both planning on getting cases for our phones anyway so as soon as we got her a case (pink no less) her issues went away. Problem solved, for us at least. Is it a glaring design flaw? Yes. Is it a problem for 99% of the phone population? I don't think so. Is Apple doing everything it can to fix the issue? No, but what they are doing is a step in the right direction. It really isn't a big deal to me at all. The advances of what the 4 can do over my previous 3GS FAR outweigh this issue. |
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Seriously, I still think the bottom line is that it's a great phone, but it isn't perfect. Whether that qualifies as "defective" or not is what I think is overblown. I doubt there will be lines out the door with people seeking refunds; in fact, there's still a 3 week wait just to get one. |
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A cover has worked for everyone I talked to. Just a silicone skin is supposed to do the trick. That's a cheap get around. If I ever switch to the 4.0, I'll have an otterbox for it. I've had one on my 3GS since day one and when I take it out it's impossible to tell it from brand new. It's taken lots of good bounces, too. More importantly, it's nice to see you around, brother. Long time no see!!! :) |
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Well, I'll have a cover when one I like comes out. I'm waiting on otterbox unless I see something else I like. I wouldn't be able to go back to the 3GS without 1) having less capacity than I started with and 2) extended my contract the same amount as the 4 did. I probably don't have to say why that is unacceptable.
Don't get me wrong, overall I love the phone. I expected a few bugs from getting it this early, but the first job of a smartphone is to be a phone, so it sucks the bug affects that. |
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To deny that there is a hardware defect causing the reception issue with the iPhone4 is simply ignoring all the evidence presented from a large number of different sources. First it was a software problem, now it's a hardware problem that can be solved by a rubber band. Just in saying that is an implicit admission from Apple that there is a design defect that affects signal quality. The issue for me has nothing to do with the phone itself, it's with the corporate attitude towards how Apple intends to deal with the problem. They don't need to work to sell their products to the people that line up around the block waiting for the AppleStore to open on launch day, or the people that will sit and hit refresh constantly to get on the pre-sale list. They do have to work to sell to people like me that base their purchase decisions on: a) the quality of the product, b) how well the company supports their product. The later includes taking the steps to make it right when there's a problem. Refusing to replace defective hardware and effectively saying "put a bandaid on it or give it back" is not taking the right steps...... and it will turn a large number of people off the company and it's products. I love my 3Gs, there's not a chance in hell that I'll upgrade to a 4.... not because there may or may not be a reception issue in the unit I'd get, but because I have zero confidence that Apple would fix a problem of their own making if such a problem occurred. As a business you live and die by the reputation you build for customer service, someone should remind Apple of that fact. |
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I'm just gonna wait a bit before getting the 4.
I own the 3 and can't comment on the 4's alleged reception problem other than to say that everyone I know that has the 4 loves it and isn't complaining about reception problems. Just the same, I'm cool with the 3 for now. Loved it when I got it, still do. My phone is used a great deal for work and if the reception problem affected me and I was in the 1% complainer club, it could potentially cost me a great deal of business which would negate all the benefits of a sexy design with video conferencing and blazing fast speeds making Superman seem like a snail. As far as Steve Jobs goes, I like his way of doing things a whole lot more than Bill Gates'. I couldn't see Microsoft giving anything away nor admitting any problem in any of their products, let alone listening to the consumer while developing them. |
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The irony is that the first time those folks that don't like the idea of a bumper drop their phone, they will be grateful the bumper was on, specially if one is anal about scratchers as I am. My son is in NC this week and I shipped his to him via Fed Ex. He spent the whole night trying to replicate the reception problem with no skin and did not have any, so I guess it is just not us South Floridians that are fortunate. Seems it is in certain markets. On the radio yesterday, they had a bunch of South Floridians call in with no issues while some in Manhattan called with many. |
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Did I hear someone say Vista? :rolleyes: |
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Ken, I think all would agree I would be the king of returns of plugged Habanos.:r |
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Videos: death grip on EVO, Droid X, Droid Incredible, Nexus One, Galaxy 1, G1, etc.
* Droid X: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFc9vnocIzQ * Samsung I9000 Galaxy S: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LROTHrTR92k * HTC Evo Signal Attenuation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pj2YBYTbag * Samsung Galaxy 1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v= * Samsung Galaxy 2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPCQdYtPihg * Droid Incredible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaDE941PzQk * Droid Incredible (With Network Extender in Room): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpEQH...eature=related * Nexus One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEIA_lMwqJA * Nexus One vs. iPhone (start at 1:29): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvMoV4_C4aA * Nexus One: http://posterous.com/getfile/files.p...n_-_iPhone.m4v * Nexus One (after Google's update to correct): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2g5J4qPp54 * Nexus One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deCkjeHYT-g * Android G1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CDaxhjUs9M * "Major signal degradation when Nexus One is picked up" (N1 Thread on On this Problem): http://www.google.com/support/forum/...9184c33e&hl=en Everyone complaining about the iPhone, I certainly don't hear them demand an industry-wide recall. Let's just focus on Apple, the company who can do nothing right. Before the press conference yesterday people were saying, "Give free bumpers to everyone Steve!". He not only gives out free cases to every customer through Septemember 30, he says if you don't like the phone bring it back and we'll issue a full refund with no restocking fee. Nothing is ever good enough I tell ya. |
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ready?............................................ drumroll.......................................... here it comes................................... might be silly but true........................ NONE of them have sold 1.5 million in one week.:r I wonder how many of all those devices listed actually have sold to date, in comparison to iPhone 4's in only a few weeks. |
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I have only had one dropped call so far.
I did have a few hangups and it tried to switch to FaceTime but I realized that I somehow touched the screen with my face during the call to cause those things to happen. Once I realized what I was doing I kept the phone a little closer to my ear. I think a software update is supposed to fix that problem though. Posted via Mobile Device |
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Anyway, my bestskinsever skin has all but solved my issue. I can still get it to drop one bar, but the big drop is a lot harder to make happen now. It's really funny how sensitive that antenna is. |
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The new OtterBox cases are now available for order.
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Apple launches free case program.
Bumpers and about 6 different cases available. http://www.apple.com/iphone/case-program/ |
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This is very interesting. What happens on Sept 30th? :tf New hardware design - iPhone 4.5? :hm Or do they sell all manufactured stock and then that's it until iPhone 5...very interesting. |
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the latest news in the last day or few is that t-mobile is very likely to have i4s available in the 3rd Q this year. Talks are evidently fairly advanced and quite high probability that they can reach and agreement.
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Ordered! 3-4 weeks... I can wait.
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Once the initial rush is over, stay tuned. I give it until just before Christmas and a redesigned one will be out. Just a hunch. |
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I've had my i4 for almost 2 weeks now, and this thing is SWEET No antenna issues here, but then I had a case on it right away, and would have had a case on it, even if there weren't the antenna issues. I find it very fast, and the connectivity to wireless networks is great. :) ...and the screen...simply awesome! |
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FYI, there are rumblings that the jailbreak for the iPhone 4 and all MC models of the 3GS will be released by this weekend :D
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Is there a website with some pics of bumpers we can choose?
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If its the free ones, you have to DL the iPhone free case app from the app store. It will list all avail cases you have to choose from. They are either black or clear btw. |
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Thanks!!!
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BTW... I got the new Otterbox case and am really happy with it. Granted I work outside and felt like I needed the ultimate protection case. This is it. A bit bulky, but I am not longer worried about damaging the phone!
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LOL, the Case program app he was asking about. But yeah, the CA one is pretty cool too :)
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Belkin clear, or Speck pixelskin to go along with my Speck candyshell?
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And if I recall correctly the 3GS I had as well. Its in the settings. |
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Hey Tyr, answer your damn phone!
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LOL, ask anyone around here... getting me to answer my phone is nothing short of a miracle. Every time I get a call I'm never able to take it LOL
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