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timj219 07-09-2010 07:42 AM

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I emailed famous to ask.

".......I ordered a five pack and five singles. The fiver had a dated slip of paper attached to its bag and each of the singles had one glued to its wrapper or tube or in the baggie with it......Are these the dates when the cigars arrived at Famous and entered your humidors?...."

and they got back to me this morning.

"Hi Tim,
First of all, thank you for joining our Famous Smoke Shop family.
And yes, you are correct. We date all product when it is received into the warehouse......."

This is a great idea IMO. If other vendors don't do it they should.

waffle 07-09-2010 08:00 AM

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I received a package last night from famous and purposely looked for this as well. All of the sticks I got from them had it on there.

mukky 07-10-2010 02:53 PM

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ok, so I have read the disputes about whether or not to leave the cello on, and I am still kind of confused. My confusion lies in whether or not to leave cello on a box purchase as opposed to singles. If you buy a box, do you leave the cello on each cigar or remove them? It would seem to me, that with the box and cello protecting the cigars, there is very little airflow or room for humidity to get to the cigars. Seems that it would take much longer for the intended humidity to be achieved? So what do you guys do when you buy a box? I'm sure I am going to get different responses, so if you could tell me your reasoning, hopefully I can make a decision on what to do based on that. Hope this makes sense, and sorry for the long post?

waffle 07-10-2010 02:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mukky (Post 912492)
ok, so I have read the disputes about whether or not to leave the cello on, and I am still kind of confused. My confusion lies in whether or not to leave cello on a box purchase as opposed to singles. If you buy a box, do you leave the cello on each cigar or remove them? It would seem to me, that with the box and cello protecting the cigars, there is very little airflow or room for humidity to get to the cigars. Seems that it would take much longer for the intended humidity to be achieved? So what do you guys do when you buy a box? I'm sure I am going to get different responses, so if you could tell me your reasoning, hopefully I can make a decision on what to do based on that. Hope this makes sense, and sorry for the long post?

I can sum up the answers you're going to get because that was a question I had to begin with and read ALL OVER about it... "Its just your preference" :D

waffle 07-10-2010 02:59 PM

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So I have a humidor thats been seasoning for 3 days and its been at a constant 74% for 2 days... does that mean its seasoned and ready to be used?

Adriftpanda 07-10-2010 03:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mukky (Post 912492)
ok, so I have read the disputes about whether or not to leave the cello on, and I am still kind of confused. My confusion lies in whether or not to leave cello on a box purchase as opposed to singles. If you buy a box, do you leave the cello on each cigar or remove them? It would seem to me, that with the box and cello protecting the cigars, there is very little airflow or room for humidity to get to the cigars. Seems that it would take much longer for the intended humidity to be achieved? So what do you guys do when you buy a box? I'm sure I am going to get different responses, so if you could tell me your reasoning, hopefully I can make a decision on what to do based on that. Hope this makes sense, and sorry for the long post?

Leave it on, take it off... just a preference. Cigars are tough, a lot tougher than we give credit for. I leave my on, because... I am just too lazy to take all the cello off one by one AND it does not make a difference imo.

mukky 07-10-2010 03:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by waffle (Post 912496)
I can sum up the answers you're going to get because that was a question I had to begin with and read ALL OVER about it... "Its just your preference" :D

lol. If I could sum up everything, and I mean everything, there is to cigar smoking in one sentence, it would be..."Its your preference":r

waffle 07-10-2010 03:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Adriftpanda (Post 912499)
Leave it on, take it off... just a preference. Cigars are tough, a lot tougher than we give credit for. I leave my on, because... I am just too lazy to take all the cello off one by one AND it does not make a difference imo.

Speaking of tough.. you get my NST package ;)

lightning9191 07-11-2010 09:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by waffle (Post 912498)
So I have a humidor thats been seasoning for 3 days and its been at a constant 74% for 2 days... does that mean its seasoned and ready to be used?

Yes. It's a little high though....I'd take the water out, let the humidity drop to 65%, fill with cigars and beads, and shut the lid. Then you're all set :tu

pnoon 07-11-2010 10:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lightning9191 (Post 912885)
Yes. It's a little high though....I'd take the water out, let the humidity drop to 65%, fill with cigars and beads, and shut the lid. Then you're all set :tu

I would put the cigars in right away as they will absorb some of the excess humidity. If you wait until it drops to 65% then when you put the cigars in, it will likely drop well below 60%.
:2

mahtofire 07-11-2010 10:13 AM

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Not really a noob questions but I've been away from the forums and the industry for a couple years now....what have I missed that I need to try?

pnoon 07-11-2010 10:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mahtofire (Post 912927)
Not really a noob questions but I've been away from the forums and the industry for a couple years now....what have I missed that I need to try?

That all depends on what you like and who you ask. The best advice I can give you is to read the threads here on the forum - Reviews, Cigar Discussion, etc. The answers you get from your post will be quite varied.

Chingas 07-11-2010 10:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mahtofire (Post 912927)
Not really a noob questions but I've been away from the forums and the industry for a couple years now....what have I missed that I need to try?



Everything...

mahtofire 07-11-2010 10:43 AM

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I want the answers to be varied. I just wanted to know what the newer good quality cigars that came out over the last couple years may be.

Don't worry, I like trying cigars different cigars...........:dr

chippewastud79 07-11-2010 10:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mahtofire (Post 912936)
I want the answers to be varied. I just wanted to know what the newer good quality cigars that came out over the last couple years may be.

Don't worry, I like trying cigars different cigars...........:dr

You could get 100's of different answers to this. Just read around some of the reviews and threads about different cigar makers and make your own determinations. :2

Ogre 07-11-2010 11:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 912945)
You could get 100's of different answers to this. Just read around some of the reviews and threads about different cigar makers and make your own determinations. :2

I would agree. Different strokes for different strokes. I have tried some that got rave reviews and didnt like and vise versa. Wish I could be of more help!!

waffle 07-11-2010 11:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 912925)
I would put the cigars in right away as they will absorb some of the excess humidity. If you wait until it drops to 65% then when you put the cigars in, it will likely drop well below 60%.
:2

Took your advice, they are now happily living in the new humi :) I may be investing in a couple of icepacks due to our A/C going out and my humis getting up in heat... other question, currently, I have a dual temp wine fridge that we're not using the bottom half of, could I just stick my humis in that or is that bad for the humis?

T.G 07-11-2010 12:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by waffle (Post 912985)
Took your advice, they are now happily living in the new humi :) I may be investing in a couple of icepacks due to our A/C going out and my humis getting up in heat... other question, currently, I have a dual temp wine fridge that we're not using the bottom half of, could I just stick my humis in that or is that bad for the humis?

Won't hurt the humidor unless it gets condensate raining down on it.

Long term storage in a compressor cooled unit might be detrimental to the cigars due to the way the compressor based units dehydrate the air, but with the cigars inside a sealed humidor placed in a compressor cooled unit, this effect will be minimized.

How long is your AC going to be out for? A week? Less? If so, I wouldn't worry about it too much.

waffle 07-11-2010 12:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 912997)
How long is your AC going to be out for? A week? Less? If so, I wouldn't worry about it too much.

Not sure, we're having a hard time getting anyone to come out and ACTUALLY figure out what's wrong with our system.

bsmokin 07-11-2010 12:46 PM

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That's rough man... good luck with getting it fixed!

You're sticks should survive... not sure how much you could really do except keep them out of any sunny areas and potentially put them in a basement if you have one....


Quote:

Originally Posted by waffle (Post 913012)
Not sure, we're having a hard time getting anyone to come out and ACTUALLY figure out what's wrong with our system.


Ogre 07-11-2010 12:48 PM

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I have found that putting them in an igloo cooler helps. It stays cooler than the air around it in my house.

waffle 07-11-2010 01:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ogre3239 (Post 913024)
I have found that putting them in an igloo cooler helps. It stays cooler than the air around it in my house.

I have a spare cooler (no I'm not turning it into a coolidor) but its not being used right now, so I think I'll grab some freezer packs and throw them in there with the humidors to keep the heat down. THey are also in the basement and this is how hot our house is... its 76 in the basement in the back away from windows and in the coolest part... oh well, it'll get fixed sooner rather than later.

Ogre 07-11-2010 01:05 PM

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I wouldnt worry about the freezer packs. the basement should be cool enough by itself.

Chris. 07-11-2010 01:17 PM

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I saw check out the EP carrillo line. LFD is also very good if you like a strong cigar.

icehog3 07-11-2010 02:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mahtofire (Post 912927)
Not really a noob questions but I've been away from the forums and the industry for a couple years now....what have I missed that I need to try?

Nubs. :)

Chris. 07-11-2010 04:43 PM

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The only nub I really liked was the Maduro. I haven't tried the Cain nub yet though...

pnoon 07-11-2010 05:38 PM

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Nice review.

icehog3 07-11-2010 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris. (Post 913263)
The only nub I really liked was the Maduro. I haven't tried the Cain nub yet though...

The only Nub I ever liked hasn't been rolled yet. :r

Pass 07-11-2010 06:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mahtofire (Post 912927)
Not really a noob questions but I've been away from the forums and the industry for a couple years now....what have I missed that I need to try?

Both Diesel Unholy Coctail and the Man O' War are good. I believe that they are both AJ Fernandez blends. I haven't tried the Man O' War Ruination yet, (still in the humi), but I hear it's better than the Man O' War which was tasty.

Kreth 07-11-2010 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pass (Post 913366)
Both Diesel Unholy Coctail and the Man O' War are good. I believe that they are both AJ Fernandez blends. I haven't tried the Man O' War Ruination yet, (still in the humi), but I hear it's better than the Man O' War which was tasty.

Correct, both by Fernandez. The MOW LE Figurado is nice too, it's the MOW blend in the Ruination wrapper.
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mahtofire 07-11-2010 11:35 PM

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Also, how do I find peoples' addresses if I want to bomb someone, and where can I put mine in case anyone wants to bomb me?

icehog3 07-11-2010 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mahtofire (Post 913753)
Also, how do I find peoples' addresses if I want to bomb someone, and where can I put mine in case anyone wants to bomb me?

PM your address to pnoon (Peter) to be put in the Rolodex.

Looks like you need to meet one more requirement to request addresses though.

Quote:

2 of 3 Requirements for use of the CA Rolodex: 100 posts/ 60 day membership/participation in trade (trader rating)

T.G 07-11-2010 11:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mahtofire (Post 913753)
Also, how do I find peoples' addresses if I want to bomb someone, and where can I put mine in case anyone wants to bomb me?

Everything regarding your question should be covered in these two threads:

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=22634
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=22394

mahtofire 07-12-2010 07:28 AM

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Gotcha, Thanks guys!

Samsquanch 07-12-2010 05:45 PM

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Is there a posting on here that outlines a good cigar review process? Perhaps a primer on how to review a cigar? I've looked around and searched but haven't come across anything, thanks.

kydsid 07-12-2010 05:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andpeo23 (Post 914440)
Is there a posting on here that outlines a good cigar review process? Perhaps a primer on how to review a cigar? I've looked around and searched but haven't come across anything, thanks.

No there isn't. But if you look at a bunch of reviews you will see common trends/fads among them all. There really is no right or wrong way to share your thoughts. Just the fact that you are willing to spend your time to contribute is all that matters. :2

NCRadioMan 07-12-2010 05:51 PM

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:tpd:

Quote:

Originally Posted by andpeo23 (Post 914440)
Is there a posting on here that outlines a good cigar review process? Perhaps a primer on how to review a cigar? I've looked around and searched but haven't come across anything, thanks.

There is no uniform way. Just tell us what you think of the cigar and maybe some of the flavors you get out of them. If you see a review that is structured the way you like, I see no reason you can't copy that basic outline.

chippewastud79 07-12-2010 05:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andpeo23 (Post 914440)
Is there a posting on here that outlines a good cigar review process? Perhaps a primer on how to review a cigar? I've looked around and searched but haven't come across anything, thanks.

Reviews can be as simple as you like or as toned down as you feel is appropriate. Pictures are always nice, for those who don't like reading. Pretty much just boils down to 'Liked it' and 'Didn't like it' (atleast thats how I score mine). If the review sucks, no worries, we will just all taunt you in a public forum for all to see. ;)

ChicagoWhiteSox 07-12-2010 06:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andpeo23 (Post 914440)
Is there a posting on here that outlines a good cigar review process? Perhaps a primer on how to review a cigar? I've looked around and searched but haven't come across anything, thanks.

I'm with everyone else. Just keep it basic. Flavors, burn, draw, ect..

Chris. 07-12-2010 06:04 PM

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I agree with everyone else. Everyone loves to see pictures in a review, but they aren't necessary. Most give their thought on the construction: what kind of cap, how well was it applied, are there any soft spots, how tightly packed does it feel, is the foot cut cleanly? How vieny is the wrapper? What shade is it? Then people tend to move on to the prelight draw and any flavors they may or may not taste from that. From there you go from 1/3 to 2/3 to 3/3 in terms of what portion of the cigar you are describing, as they typically change around those times. People tend to describe the burn, if it was razor sharp, if it was jagged, if it needed relights/touchups etc. Then offer up your final thoughts on the cigar. Did it appeal to your palate? Do you think you would buy it again?

I love seeing reviews! Post them up brother!

Samsquanch 07-12-2010 09:04 PM

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Thanks guys, just posted my first review. I enjoyed the smoking (of course) but I also really enjoyed taking the time to focus on the cigar and what I was tasting and experiencing.

Pass 07-13-2010 05:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andpeo23 (Post 914615)
Thanks guys, just posted my first review. I enjoyed the smoking (of course) but I also really enjoyed taking the time to focus on the cigar and what I was tasting and experiencing.

Nice link.... to the "Refining your palate" thread. :r

Samsquanch 07-13-2010 09:12 AM

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Haha, wow thanks for noticing that. In my review I link to the "Refining" thread and must have mixed up the two links. My real first review is here.

ujponds 07-19-2010 05:11 PM

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I have a question about Boveda humidity packs. Do you think they are enough on their own for a desktop?
They seem to work pretty well, I like that if I go on a weekend trip I can just put one in a container w/ my sticks.

bobarian 07-19-2010 05:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ujponds (Post 921493)
I have a question about Boveda humidity packs. Do you think they are enough on their own for a desktop?
They seem to work pretty well, I like that if I go on a weekend trip I can just put one in a container w/ my sticks.

A weekend wont matter one way or another. If your humidor has a decent seal it should last for several weeks without any humidification. Most here use humidity beads, I prefer 65% beads from Heartfelt Industries. 1-2oz's is enough for most 100-150ct humidors, they only need to be recharged once every month or two. Even if your cigars drop to 50-55% for a short time it wont make a big difference in the long run. Cigars are much tougher than most think.

If you have a Boveda pack throwing it in your humidor while you are away will help. What is your main source of humidification? If you using a sponge with PG solution, I would change to beads as soon as possible. :2

Chingas 07-19-2010 06:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ujponds (Post 921493)
I have a question about Boveda humidity packs. Do you think they are enough on their own for a desktop?
They seem to work pretty well, I like that if I go on a weekend trip I can just put one in a container w/ my sticks.

I use beads in my coolers and boveda packs in my desktops. No issues. When they get hard, I replace them.

ujponds 07-19-2010 06:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian (Post 921506)
A weekend wont matter one way or another. If your humidor has a decent seal it should last for several weeks without any humidification. Most here use humidity beads, I prefer 65% beads from Heartfelt Industries. 1-2oz's is enough for most 100-150ct humidors, they only need to be recharged once every month or two. Even if your cigars drop to 50-55% for a short time it wont make a big difference in the long run. Cigars are much tougher than most think.

If you have a Boveda pack throwing it in your humidor while you are away will help. What is your main source of humidification? If you using a sponge with PG solution, I would change to beads as soon as possible. :2

The Boveda packs are my main source. I use 4 69% packs, and it stays @ 67%. I have been pretty happy so far (about 6 weeks), I was wondering if there is maybe some downside I did'nt consider.

ujponds 07-19-2010 06:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chingas (Post 921578)
I use beads in my coolers and boveda packs in my desktops. No issues. When they get hard, I replace them.

Do you use them like a blanket, off to the sides or attached to the top?

ujponds 07-19-2010 06:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Samsquanch (Post 915003)
Haha, wow thanks for noticing that. In my review I link to the "Refining" thread and must have mixed up the two links. My real first review is here.

Love the avitar! "you wanna roll with The Patroit!?"

bobarian 07-19-2010 06:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chingas (Post 921578)
I use beads in my coolers and boveda packs in my desktops. No issues. When they get hard, I replace them.

Absolutely no reason to throw them away. They say that they cannot be recharged but this is not true. Put the dried out pack in a tupperware container with a small sponge(or piece of a sponge) moistened with distilled water. After 3 or 4 days the Boveda pack should be recharged and ready to use again.

Regarding the disadvantages of only using Boveda packs. They do not absorb moisture as quickly as beads, nor do they have the holding capacity. Boveda packs are a short term solution while beads are long term. :2


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