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stearns 07-29-2021 10:10 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
I assumed price, although pour size is also good info to have (assuming 1.5-2oz)

The camaro show 07-29-2021 10:36 AM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Prices

Says 1.75 Oz so pretty decent pour

The camaro show 07-29-2021 10:37 AM

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Would most likely be in a old fashioned if that changes anything

longknocker 07-29-2021 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by stearns (Post 2221224)
I assumed price, although pour size is also good info to have (assuming 1.5-2oz)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The camaro show (Post 2221225)
Prices

Says 1.75 Oz so pretty decent pour

:tu

stearns 07-29-2021 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The camaro show (Post 2221226)
Would most likely be in a old fashioned if that changes anything

Maybe keep it to the under $10 options. I've had some good Old Fashioneds with nicer booze, and they do sometimes elevate the drink, but you're not gonna get a good feel for the underlying whiskey. Also always a good option to ask the bartender what they prefer for their Old Fashioneds, I've had a few where they give me some surprising answers so I usually just let them run with it. My favorite is going to a nice cocktail bar and saying "I want something like an Old Fashioned, but not an Old Fashioned, and maybe some some X (honey, orange, whatever you're in the mood for) in it." Gotta trust the bartender but if they know what they're doing you'll usually end up with something delicious

longknocker 07-29-2021 04:07 PM

Re: The Bourbon Thread!!
 
Do Any Of You Agree With These Choices???
https://www.gearpatrol.com/food/drin.../best-bourbon/

longknocker 07-29-2021 04:09 PM

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Ben: When You Get A Chance, Can You List The Good Wheated Vs. Corn Bourbons??? Thanks!

SNKBYT 07-29-2021 06:00 PM

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Headed to Bourbon KY

jledou 07-29-2021 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 2221243)
Do Any Of You Agree With These Choices???
https://www.gearpatrol.com/food/drin.../best-bourbon/

It's a good list but I would pick a different "cheap" bourbon

Best Cheap Bourbon: Evan Williams Black Label

I would prefer Old Forester's Bottled in Bond or Wild Turkey 101. Both can be found around $20 a bottle typically.

The regular Four Roses often gets the best mixer but it is also an inexpensive one with a different profile from the two listed above.

A lot depends on your preference here but you can often find a lot of good bourbons from the larger distillers in the lower priced range that are better than the latest small batch boutique label that sources a young bourbon and slaps a label on it.

longknocker 07-29-2021 06:58 PM

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Thanks, Jay!:tu

stearns 07-30-2021 06:54 AM

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A few thoughts- I'm not a believer in these types of lists generally but this one at least hits a couple places. Best overall as Knob Creek is fair and I'm a fan, Evan Williams white (bottled in bond) is a world better than black, the ones in the "affordable" category are all good pours, the "high-end" section is all over the place but mostly on track. In general there's really nothing on the list that will disappoint. And if you find the "Grail Bourbon" at the bottom William Larue Weller please give me a call :)

longknocker 07-30-2021 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by stearns (Post 2221266)
A few thoughts- I'm not a believer in these types of lists generally but this one at least hits a couple places. Best overall as Knob Creek is fair and I'm a fan, Evan Williams white (bottled in bond) is a world better than black, the ones in the "affordable" category are all good pours, the "high-end" section is all over the place but mostly on track. In general there's really nothing on the list that will disappoint. And if you find the "Grail Bourbon" at the bottom William Larue Weller please give me a call :)

Thanks, Brother!:D:tu. I Still Haven't Found Which Of Your Favorites Are More Wheat Vs. More Corn.

stearns 07-30-2021 07:27 AM

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Any "Bourbon" will be at least 51% corn, actual wheat whiskeys are another hole to go down but that hole isn't as deep. I like wheated bourbons a lot, there aren't a ton of them out there, mostly Weller and Makers Mark. I'm a big fan of Makers, especially 46 Cask Strength (the 101 is pretty good too). Weller is... Weller, if you can get it get whatever you can but don't overspend, I personally am a huge fan of Old Weller Antique 107 but have a couple nice Weller Full Proofs, those ones took a lot of patience (and in one case a sizable charitable donation) but they can be really good, or really average depending on the barrel

longknocker 07-30-2021 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by stearns (Post 2221269)
Any "Bourbon" will be at least 51% corn, actual wheat whiskeys are another hole to go down but that hole isn't as deep. I like wheated bourbons a lot, there aren't a ton of them out there, mostly Weller and Makers Mark. I'm a big fan of Makers, especially 46 Cask Strength (the 101 is pretty good too). Weller is... Weller, if you can get it get whatever you can but don't overspend, I personally am a huge fan of Old Weller Antique 107 but have a couple nice Weller Full Proofs, those ones took a lot of patience (and in one case a sizable charitable donation) but they can be really good, or really average depending on the barrel

So Knob Creek, Four Roses, & Most Of Your Other Suggested Bourbons Are The Higher Corn Variety???

stearns 07-30-2021 07:55 AM

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They are all primarily corn, that being said there's a lot of room for playing around with that remaining 49%. Four Roses has two different mashbills, one 20% rye and one 35% rye (blends will usually have both), MGP is similar with 21% rye and 36% rye, Knob Creek is higher corn with only 13% rye. This list isn't exhaustive but can give you a general idea of what a lot of the bigger ones are doing for their mash. Also keep in mind that the time in the barrel likely has more impact on the final product than the mash, but everything plays together to get you to what you taste when you pour it in a glass

longknocker 07-30-2021 09:15 AM

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That's What I Needed, Ben,Thanks!:D:tu

icehog3 07-30-2021 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 2221221)
Since I'm An Old Fart With No Mind Left, Explain The Numbers After The Whiskey???:confused:

I think it's the price of a pour at the joint Chayse is talking about. :)

longknocker 07-30-2021 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 2221283)
I think it's the price of a pour at the joint Chayse is talking about. :)

Got It!:D:tu

SNKBYT 08-01-2021 04:06 PM

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:banger

longknocker 08-02-2021 06:09 PM

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Found A New Bourbon At Costco To Try:
https://i.imgur.com/RJyhigxl.jpg











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