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elderboy02 08-29-2011 04:55 AM
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I too love Jeff Brantley. He is absolutely hillarious with his stories, but is also very smart about baseball. Andy, I agree that he has tremendous baseball knowledge. I think he would be a great pitching coach.

waffle 08-29-2011 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1390882)
I believe in being passionate about your teams....for me, that means the Blackhawks (NHL) over most, but I also have love for my MLB, NFL and college FB teams. But being a passionate fan doesn't mean being blind....if you can't be objective about your team, your opinions will likely be irrelevant in a frank discussion about same. Thanks for indulging me here even though the Reds aren't my team. :tu
Its fun having you in here, as we often stall on conversations in this one... Seriously, its been fun reading the back and forth of opinions on the state of the Reds and the NL Central in general, and I'm sure glad you stuck around!

waffle 08-29-2011 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1391132)
I too love Jeff Brantley. He is absolutely hillarious with his stories, but is also very smart about baseball. Andy, I agree that he has tremendous baseball knowledge. I think he would be a great pitching coach.
Jeff Brantley does have a vast baseball knowledge, but with zero coaching skills built (i.e. he's never coached, and doesn't seem to have the drive to) he would be a HORRENDOUS coach. "Yer not doing it right, watch its like this"... rather than this is what you're doing wrong and lets try this to correct it. You have to know how to correct issues before you can be a good coach and if Brantley were a coach, he'd have to start in a lower area than the Bigs. The only reason McGwire does well as a coach is because towards the end of his career, he stood at the cages as the young guys took bp and worked with them... he took steps to be a batting coach while he was still a player.

chippewastud79 08-29-2011 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1390882)
I believe in being passionate about your teams....for me, that means the Blackhawks (NHL) over most, but I also have love for my MLB, NFL and college FB teams. But being a passionate fan doesn't mean being blind....if you can't be objective about your team, your opinions will likely be irrelevant in a frank discussion about same. Thanks for indulging me here even though the Reds aren't my team. :tu
This.

Starscream 08-29-2011 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by waffle (Post 1391151)
Jeff Brantley does have a vast baseball knowledge, but with zero coaching skills built (i.e. he's never coached, and doesn't seem to have the drive to) he would be a HORRENDOUS coach. "Yer not doing it right, watch its like this"... rather than this is what you're doing wrong and lets try this to correct it. You have to know how to correct issues before you can be a good coach and if Brantley were a coach, he'd have to start in a lower area than the Bigs. The only reason McGwire does well as a coach is because towards the end of his career, he stood at the cages as the young guys took bp and worked with them... he took steps to be a batting coach while he was still a player.
That's the way he says it in the booth. I'm sure he knows that coaching has to have a different approach.
But like you said, he has no interest in coaching. Still, I'd love it though.

waffle 08-29-2011 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1391420)
That's the way he says it in the booth. I'm sure he knows that coaching has to have a different approach.
But like you said, he has no interest in coaching. Still, I'd love it though.
True, but honestly, I believe that's his normal personality, and its AWESOME on the radio, it would suck as a coach ;) I think that's why he's where he's at and I love him paired up with Marty.

chippewastud79 08-29-2011 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1391420)
That's the way he says it in the booth. I'm sure he knows that coaching has to have a different approach.
But like you said, he has no interest in coaching. Still, I'd love it though.
Good announcers don't always translate into sports minds or coaches or vice-versa. See: Matt Millen, announcer hired as a GM. Barry Melrose's last stint in the NHL, coach turned announcer, turned coach. Quinn Buckner a terrible failure in the NBA after being hired out of the booth. :2

Starscream 08-29-2011 02:52 PM
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If he were the pitching coach, all our pitchers would have pot-bellies due to all the all you can eat rib fests that he would hold. Ribs and ice cream at Cowboy's house after every home game!

Starscream 08-29-2011 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1391497)
Good announcers don't always translate into sports minds or coaches or vice-versa. See: Matt Millen, announcer hired as a GM. Barry Melrose's last stint in the NHL, coach turned announcer, turned coach. Quinn Buckner a terrible failure in the NBA after being hired out of the booth. :2
Could you get the word out to all the clowns in Cincy who want to see Joe Morgan become the next manager?:r

waffle 08-29-2011 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1391561)
Could you get the word out to all the clowns in Cincy who want to see Joe Morgan become the next manager?:r
You ever heard of FireJoeMorgan.com? or FJM... they used to mercilessly destroy his articles and stories... they were amazing!

And no, I DON'T want Joe Morgan as my next manager... how about we get someone that has proven they actually know what the F*$# they're doing rather than some dude you want to have nostalgic buttsex with....

Starscream 08-29-2011 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by waffle (Post 1391569)
You ever heard of FireJoeMorgan.com? or FJM... they used to mercilessly destroy his articles and stories... they were amazing!

And no, I DON'T want Joe Morgan as my next manager... how about we get someone that has proven they actually know what the F*$# they're doing rather than some dude you want to have nostalgic buttsex with....
:r

I've heard of the site, but never checked it out. I thought it was just to get him and Jon Miller off the air from Sunday Night Baseball.

chippewastud79 08-29-2011 07:59 PM
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Thankfully the Phillies were in town so they didn't get blacked out. I still can't believe that the score keeper in Cincinnati is so bad. Ruled Phillips hit a 'Triple'. I have never seen more balls that are off of outfielder gloves been ruled hits than in Cincinnati. :td

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1391561)
Could you get the word out to all the clowns in Cincy who want to see Joe Morgan become the next manager?:r
Joe Morgan is a Red, Reds or Die! :r

Starscream 08-29-2011 08:06 PM
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Phillies caught stealing signs. Bastrads! Good job by Hanigan to catch it, but he should've told Bailey to put the ball in someone's ear.

chippewastud79 08-29-2011 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1391960)
Phillies caught stealing signs. Bastrads! Good job by Hanigan to catch it, but he should've told Bailey to put the ball in someone's ear.
I would hardly call that stealing signals. He took a step inside and coincidentally (maybe not) that is where Hannigan set up. Hannigan set up inside the next pitch and he didn't take the step. :confused:

It might be a little bush league, but it happens at every level of baseball. Hell, little leaguers point to where the catcher sets up. In the end knowing where the pitcher is set up helps you about as much as a corked bat, you still have to hit the ball. :2

elderboy02 08-29-2011 09:06 PM
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Joe Morgan will never manage the Reds. Why would he trade in what he has now to live in hotels and be on the road all the time. I think he is staying put :tu

waffle 08-30-2011 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1391991)
I would hardly call that stealing signals. He took a step inside and coincidentally (maybe not) that is where Hannigan set up. Hannigan set up inside the next pitch and he didn't take the step. :confused:

It might be a little bush league, but it happens at every level of baseball. Hell, little leaguers point to where the catcher sets up. In the end knowing where the pitcher is set up helps you about as much as a corked bat, you still have to hit the ball. :2
I'm not sure they were stealing signs either, but whether or not it was coincidental.... all i know is...


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chippewastud79 08-30-2011 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1392008)
Joe Morgan will never manage the Reds. Why would he trade in what he has now to live in hotels and be on the road all the time. I think he is staying put :tu
A one hour sports radio show on Sports USA Radio Network? Does anyone even know who carries the show? Yeah, I wouldn't trade that in either. Frankly, he is a bad sports announcer/analyst/broadcater/journalist, any job he can hold is worth hanging on to I suppose. :confused:

waffle 08-30-2011 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1392271)
A one hour sports radio show on Sports USA Radio Network? Does anyone even know who carries the show? Yeah, I wouldn't trade that in either. Frankly, he is a bad sports announcer/analyst/broadcater/journalist, any job he can hold is worth hanging on to I suppose. :confused:
Wait a minute... he also now owns a car dealership in Lebanon, OH on SR 63... because when I go car shopping, I drive an hour to check one out :tu

icehog3 08-30-2011 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 1392271)
A one hour sports radio show on Sports USA Radio Network? Does anyone even know who carries the show? Yeah, I wouldn't trade that in either. Frankly, he is a bad sports announcer/analyst/broadcater/journalist, any job he can hold is worth hanging on to I suppose. :confused:
Bad broadcaster? I don't think that's really fair, Adam. I thought he always did an excellent job of explaining how great Joe Morgan was. ;)

waffle 08-30-2011 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1392408)
Bad broadcaster? I don't think that's really fair, Adam. I thought he always did an excellent job of explaining how great Joe Morgan was. ;)
Tru.... Joe Morgan, Broadcaster, thinks Joe Morgan, Player, should be considered for the Hall of Fame... hell, if he got a vote, I'm sure he'd vote for him every year! Joe Morgan - the best player in baseball's history, just ask him!


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