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:r:r:r

ONLY six...:r

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Even the top closers have blown at least 4. I mean, Cordero doesn't make it easy to watch, but he does get saves.

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I'm not one to BRAG about "saves"....so let me get this straight, a starting pitcher "aka Cueto" can pitch 8 innings, give up the one run on six hits with no walks and five strikeouts....Cordero, who's only job is to pitch for 3 outs, not 24 outs.....T H R E E ! Loads the bases with one out only to be "saved" by Phillips stopping that shot up the middle by Gomes, that was bobbled by Janish who then "saves" himself and CoCo again by being able to complete the double play. So who was it that made the "save" Dan? Out of everyone on both teams, CoCo is not my nomination for getting the save, but he was infact saved by the rest of the team!

This post was so awesome, everyone should Quote it! FTW!

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FTW!



















Just for you ;)

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Cordero will not pitch a ninth inning without allowing at least a few base runners. Usually allowing a run and putting some runners on second or third. :rolleyes:

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That's the problem with pitching stats to begin with. Why are pitchers evaluated on wins and saves when in fact, they don't win the game by themselves, nor do they save the game by themselves either.

For me, a good pitcher is based mainly on ERA and WHIP. Those aren't the only factors, as we all know, but wins are overrated when it comes to pitching stats. Especially with small market teams.

If Cueto played for Phillie, NYY, Atlanta, or Boston, he'd have a helluva lot more wins than he does now based on his performance alone.


BTW, strikeouts are overrated too.

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This many sound hypocritical after my last post, but I agree with you here. He has gotten the job done, despite all the nail-biters he puts us through.

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One thing hasn't changed: Jonny Gomes is still helping Arroyo lose ballgames.:)

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One thing hasn't changed, Stubbs still loves striking out. 0'fer again, 2 K's more toward the record books, 14 up on the league now :tu

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If you're gonna lead the league, then you gotta do it right. He needs to work on striking out looking more. He had a good one tonight. :D

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If pitchers threw him strikes he would have many more strikeouts. He loves watching pitches and sometimes he ends up getting a walk instead of a strikeout. :hm

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:r

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Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu :)

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13.5 Games back! :banger

Nothing like "stealing" a win on a blown call at second base. :tu

Drew Stubbs goes 0'fer and the Reds win and adds to his strikeout total :td

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Just saw that was the first series win against the Pirates this year. Man, this team is bad, good follow up to the Division Championship. :r

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Alonso at first tonight. He's looking good offensively so far.

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Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :) :tu :tu

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13.5 Games Back :banger

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Stubbs better pick up his strikeout total if he wants to beat the MLB record. Heck he is in danger of not even making it to 200 at this point. :rolleyes:

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Stubbs 0-4 with 2 K's, gotta get to that record Drew :tu

Has Cordero had a 1-2-3 9th inning this season? :hm He loves putting people on base and in scoring position. If he had more save opportunities, he would have surely blown more by now. :td