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Figures. It really is an obvious idea.
I like to keep the drum mag though. You might even be able to shoot 'em both at the same time.

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drum mag would make that thing weigh a ton. personally if I was gonna put anything under my barrel in terms of fire power I'd want a M203 :banger

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Took the tlr off the glock and put it on the AK.

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Ssssoooooooo it was a bad day?

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The twin-barrel is a gimmick. Much like the SlideFire stocks. There's a saying in the motorcycle world…"If loud pipes save lives…imagine what learning to RIDE that thing would do!" Same thing with firearms gimmicks. If you think 2 barrels will take the threat out…imagine what learning to shoot that thing could do!

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Glock did not like having that thing on it.

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http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5495/1...cf887529_z.jpg
Getcha one of these. :)

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I believe your gun is in the way :r

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What he said ^^^^^^

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Hers or mine? :confused:

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yours... and maybe hers?

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I just need to put a stronger recoil spring in. And stronger mag spring.

The light stiffens the frame and causes the slide to cycle too fast for the mags.

So for now she sits on the AK. Might use it to go hog hunting.

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Brownells 10% off orders of $250 or more use code SSS. Valid 01.14.2014 - 01.24.2014

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I was thinkin the other way around. The shotgun with an assault rifle on top. You might be able to fit the M203 under there too. And a flashlight.:banger:r

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http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictur...ccessories.jpg

:r:r

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I wonder how long it took to zero all those sights

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Doesn't need to. Co-witnesses like a boss.

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Would need to mount that b!tch on a Humvee!! :)

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Serious Man-Cave???

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictur...Got%20Guns.jpg

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictur...t%20Guns02.jpg

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Ted Nugent?

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Nah, no dead animals.

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I was thinking Charlton Heston

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Nope...a guy named Bruce E. Stern according to snopes.

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Yes, I'd like to learn a thing or two from your experience.

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Very nice. Do you still have it or has it transformed into something different.

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look at all the reloading stuff and all its sweet glorious goodnness!!!!

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Lol, I def take my reloading seriously, I keep the big jugs of powder and Primers in another room..A little wider angle!

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y...psdbhi3bhp.jpg

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I just went from 6 to midnight...:dr

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my current set up is my lee turret bolted down to an old night stand :r. Just got into 5.56 reloading though and need some new tools to reload rifle cases... stupid milspec primers. So far though the cases haven't expanded to the point where I need to trim them except a few. Need to play with the auto discs too to get the right powder drop as well as get powder and primers. Any suggestions for pimers? I've heard CCI #41 and I've heard #40's work as well but then i've heard NOT to use #40's.

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Funny you used a nightstand!!.... The light brown 3 drawer stand under my bench to the right once was a night stand with legs....I had my Rock Chucker and powder dispenser mounted to it!

In .223 I use CCI 450's for both bolt and the AR platform

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might have to get me a couple boxes of these... and by might i mean MUST.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gczIArF6Uqg

its the new G2Research round. they are CNC'd from a solid piece of copper. they act like a hollow point but they have "fin" like pieces that come together to make the bullet. At impact they fan out and detach from the base of the bullet... insanely devistating and look nasty to boot.

after watching them against ballistic jell-o they look like they don't have as much penetrating power as a normal hollow point which means might be safer to use in a true home defense senario too. I'm always paranoid that IF i ever find myself in that situation (god forbid I EVER have to) that the bullet will travel through the walls. It definitely has enough power to get the job done and put someone down but I'd like to see this run with a piece of dry wall and ballistics gel on both sides of the dry wall, each gel being about 8-12" thick.

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I will only say that many similar claims of ballistic performance have come down the pike through the years. Lots of those companies are long gone from the scene. The quote often attributed to P.T. Barnum about 'suckers' should be kept in mind. No, I'm not calling you a sucker for showing interest, by the way.

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What do you mean by claims? I'm simply wondering as I'm newer to the gun scene and haven't been around long enough to see such things come through the pipe line. I do know there are videos of this round through ballistic gel but I don't how you would define a claim. In the ballistics gel it looked quite good. Had the same effect as a normal HP round would + more. Again though, I am curious as to what you would define as a claim in this situation. Not trying to defend this product or company but am curious and I appreciate the info about other companies that aren't around anymore.

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Lots of reading to do regarding ammo, but all of it very useful:

http://www.ar15.com/ammo/project/Sel..._FAQ/index.htm

http://www.ar15.com/ammo/project/Exo..._FAQ/index.htm

Now I'm not saying that it doesn't do what they claim, but I would like to see more testing done. Till then I'll stick to HST, Ranger and GoldDot.

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I wasn't there when the company did the testing or set up the gelatin. We don't know if the ammo was souped up beyond normal, or the gel of the right consistency, etc.

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Lots of ways to manipulate data and tests. I think I'll wait a while to see how it stands the test of time. Until then, I keep to the old reliable and proven products.

I also wonder if you had the misfortune to actually have to use something like this, what the lawyers would make of it. I can see them arguing that you were using a round that was "boutique" and intended to do "excessive damage" and they could try to work the angle on "premeditation" somehow. Let's face it, in this day and time, people are always looking for an angle to shift the blame. That's why I don't have "zombie killer" stuff.

Not a lawyer, but I also don't underestimate the stupidity/ignorance/conniving of society these days.

:2

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Yup, the old round ball and musket!!! FOG :sl

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Actually, I was thinking about Hydros and Sabres, nut .50 ball works too!

:gary

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YIKES!!!!

http://www.slickguns.com/product/new...wners-drooling

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I wonder if you can just take some copper tubing and a swage press and make your own fancy frag ammo.

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Any thoughts on Mini 14s?

http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...mages/5846.jpg

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What equipment is necessary to start reloading?

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Carried one in my patrol car for a couple years, shot it quarterly. Really nice to shoot but a little more work to maintain than the AR15 for the average cop. Lots of little pieces seemed to get lost when they were cleaning them so we traded the minis in for ARs. I'd buy one if it was a deal, and I'll probably snag a 10/22 when my boy is ready to learn to shoot.

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It depends on what level you want to reload. I would suggest to start with a single stage press. Much slower reload speed but makes you follow the basics before you advance to a turret press. You will need a powder scale, I would recommend a powder drop too (makes measuring the load easier). A micrometer, a brass trimmer a primer pit tool and primer seat tool should round out your tools. You will need separate dies for each caliber you are going to reload. Your initial investment should be around $300 to $350 depending on the press and the dies you choose to start. I would also advise getting a reloaders manual from speer or hornaday.

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I started with the lee 4 turret press. As long as you take it slow, take your time, its fine for a beginner. Just do A LOT of research about your loads, setting up your press and then do some more research. Every time I sit down I still check my die's to make sure they are at the right levels/specs for my load. I'll run the powder drop a until I feel confident about the weight its dropping (I'll load powder, measure, dump powder back rinse and repeat 5-10 times before I actually start loading). Then I'll check my powder weight every 10 rounds.

I would recommend getting multiple loading manuals. I have a Horandy, Lee and another big book (don't remember the name of it). One book might not have a certain powder that the other book will or they might have different specs for each round. I started off (powder weight wise) at the lowest between what all 3 of my books said and worked my way up from there.

1) Press
2) some sort of digital scale or a powder drop
3) micrometer
4) Manuals
5) Primers/powder/bullets/brass
6) Bullet puller
7) Some sort of brass tumbler and media

If you are doing rifle then you will also need
7) Case trimmer
8) Case lube
9) Depending on the round a primer swagging tool (5.56 can sometimes have a crimped primer which you need a special tool to deprime)

edit: If you get a turret press it will come with a deprimer (for non crimped primers) and a priming tool already built into the press

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my upper came in.

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n...pszp30dr9q.jpg

all packed up and ready to put together.

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n...pstbke7uof.jpg


and have been able to grab 120 rounds of 5.56 in the last two weeks at local stops.

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Thanks for the info on reloading. Right now I'd get started with .40 for my pistol, and possibly .223/5.56 as well.

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I have a 16 in. flat top floating barrel AR with no sights on it yet. I can't see through iron sights so well any more and no sense in putting a scope on this. I already have a scoped 20" HBAR setup.
What ideas y'all have for sighting this? I've already done some research but I'm throwin' it out here.

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eotech aimpoint or trijicon!

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Bob i would start with the .40 and see if its for you before you jump into 223/556 or both. Pistol is easier to reload. The case brass for pistols won't expand like rifle brass will. As long as your OAL for your .40 is good to go the entire round should be good to go. You can save some money so you don't have to buy a brass trimmer and primer swag for your 556 that way. If you like/enjoy reloading then you can go get the proper equipment to reload for your 223/556. Unless money aint no thang then do both!! :noon