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Blueface 01-13-2014 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cigarmonkel (Post 1922957)
How much are those BCG's running for? Never heard of Umbrella (don't do a lot of online gun forum stuff). Looked them up and they seem to make a very solid BCG. Let me know what you think of the Giselle trigger, I've been thinking about swapping one into mine when I have some spare funds.

Umbrella stuff is hard to get as it flies off the shelf as it comes in.
Best thing is to regularly check their FaceBook page.
They make very good quality stuff.
My lower and uppers are incredible in terms of perfection.
I am a big fan of the Resident Evil movies so it is a must have build for me.

So far, BCG $145, Lower $175, Upper $145, Grip $20, Parts Kit $35, plus cost of trigger.
I am patiently waiting on all parts they will be selling with logo.

cigarmonkel 01-13-2014 05:29 PM

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I know you said they are coming out with barrels and hand guards, anything else in the rumors? Stocks? muzzle breaks/comp? furniture of any kind? I'm tempted now to do another build. Pretty decent price for a good quality BCG. I paid 185 for my BCM BCG back when they were impossible to find. Sounds like a fun build... any... pics...? :)

Blueface 01-13-2014 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cigarmonkel (Post 1922963)
I know you said they are coming out with barrels and hand guards, anything else in the rumors? Stocks? muzzle breaks/comp? furniture of any kind? I'm tempted now to do another build. Pretty decent price for a good quality BCG. I paid 185 for my BCM BCG back when they were impossible to find. Sounds like a fun build... any... pics...? :)

Well, rumor from their end has a Nickel Boron BCG in the mid year, and you bet I will order one.
New model grip, perhaps stippled.
Stock.
....and, complete builds.
All in addition two several barrels and a handguard, and all with logo.

cigarmonkel 01-13-2014 06:02 PM

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Hmm I'm debating with myself if I wanna make a light weight ar next or if I wanna do a long range nail driver. Either way I'll definitely have to keep my eye on them.

billybarue 01-13-2014 09:45 PM

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any inputs on 28 gauges. Tired of my 11-87 for quail (probably still use it for dove), and I've always wanted a Browning Citori 20 gauge w/ an English stock. Buddy of mine is good pals with a Benelli distributor and he's going to get a Benelli Legacy 28 semi-auto at a break-neck price. I can get in on the deal and think I'm gonna put off the Citori. Another friend says he has no problem with knock down power on pheasant and grouse with his 28, and claims 28 gauge deliver the best shot pattern. Any inputs.



http://www.shotgunlife.com/shotguns/...pland-gun.html

Fordman4ever 01-14-2014 05:05 AM

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Here's my guns, minus one. My Merlin .22 wasn't being cleaned the day I took this picture.
Remington 7MM Mag
Mossberg 500
Glock 23

https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/...81606474_n.jpg

Remo 01-14-2014 09:13 AM

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I think I am gonna grab a Mossberg 500 with a pistol grip for sh!ts and giggles :tu

Remo 01-14-2014 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GTsetGO (Post 1922889)
nice.

I ordered one of these last week for my SA XDsc

http://aliengearholsters.com/skin/fr...ia/slider1.jpg

If you find that holster has too much material give my buddies company a look RDR holsters :tu

Remo 01-14-2014 09:20 AM

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Attachment 14289

Here is my IWB.

GTsetGO 01-14-2014 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Remo (Post 1922891)
Cool, let me know how you like it.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Remo (Post 1923222)
If you find that holster has too much material give my buddies company a look RDR holsters :tu



Will do. I have a leather single clip IWB right now and I like it. But i am looking for something more comfortable. I have tried a crossbreed and really liked it. But $90 when i can get this one for $35. plus they have a 4 week "try it out" policy. If i don't like it, I send it back.

Lockspur 01-14-2014 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dijit (Post 1922956)
I thought those were LE only. If not great round but a bit pricey. I guess there isnt any such thing as too expensive when it comes to self defense.

Ranger SXT is the same as Black Talons. But with a copper bullet instead of black. Available to civilian markets. That's what I carry.

emopunker2004 01-14-2014 04:05 PM

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Put a magpul xtm handstop on the ak. Pictures later

Remo 01-15-2014 05:13 PM

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Attachment 14297

I am really digging the RIA compact 1911....really like the price, mostly good reviews with RIA, any fisrt hand experience here?

Lockspur 01-15-2014 05:19 PM

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I've fondled them. Seem well put together. I hear the customer service is great. I would wait a few months, though. RIA has changed their roll mark on the slide, and it's MUCH smaller.

Remo 01-15-2014 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lockspur (Post 1923872)
I've fondled them. Seem well put together. I hear the customer service is great. I would wait a few months, though. RIA has changed their roll mark on the slide, and it's MUCH smaller.

Cool, good info. Thanks Scotty :tu

Remo 01-15-2014 07:32 PM

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All my gun contacts are in Vegas right now, my main guy says they have RIA's in the shop, I better go check them out :tu

Blueface 01-15-2014 07:53 PM

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I have fallen deeply in love.
MRAD
man I want one.

Steve 01-15-2014 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Remo (Post 1923868)
Attachment 14297

I am really digging the RIA compact 1911....really like the price, mostly good reviews with RIA, any fisrt hand experience here?

Sexy...

Remo 01-15-2014 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 1923958)
Sexy...

$429 really sexy!!!!

sikk50 01-16-2014 12:29 AM

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I've been using Remora ITWB holsters for my LC9 and Model 36. Just ordered a DeSantis ITWB for my LC9. I'm just hoping its not too much thicker

I've been looking at picking up a RIA lately. I found out its on my approved carry list for work, I just havent had a chance to actually shoot one yet

dijit 01-16-2014 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Remo (Post 1923868)
Attachment 14297

I am really digging the RIA compact 1911....really like the price, mostly good reviews with RIA, any fisrt hand experience here?

I havent tried the compact but have owned or currently owned the full size tactical and standard and for the money I dont think you can go wrong. However it is a design that I think one would have to work at to mess up too.

Remo 01-16-2014 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dijit (Post 1924051)
I havent tried the compact but have owned or currently owned the full size tactical and standard and for the money I dont think you can go wrong. However it is a design that I think one would have to work at to mess up too.

Cool, thanks Michael!

Lockspur 01-16-2014 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dijit (Post 1924051)
I havent tried the compact but have owned or currently owned the full size tactical and standard and for the money I dont think you can go wrong. However it is a design that I think one would have to work at to mess up too.

You'd be surprised. I've had 1911's that were a mess. Where it usually goes wrong is with the extractor and ejector. But those are also easy fixes.

Also, the internet will tell you that 1911's with a barrel shorter than 4" will be trouble. It all depends on the manufacturer. My 4" 1911 has a 2" grouping at 25 yards on a rest…and there is no way I can replicate that free hand.

Some manufacturers don't build their 1911's to mil-spec. The ATI Commander I had needed major work to fit an aftermarket sear/disconnector. The channel they sit in was way too small. Most other 1911's need just minor sanding for the same part…if sanding is needed at all. However, the ATI went bang every time I pulled the trigger (dang stiff one too) and was a very accurate and comfortable gun. And for $450, it was priced right. I sold it because I end up tweaking my guns and it would have cost too much to do what I wanted…due to the out of spec manufacturing.

emopunker2004 01-17-2014 06:27 AM

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Picked up a TLR1S

Might stay on the Glock. Might go on the AK

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3710/1...35e06a0d_c.jpg
DSC00168 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

0002S 01-19-2014 01:31 PM

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6.5 Grendel

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps6ed5b953.jpg

Remo 01-19-2014 01:37 PM

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Sexy!

Cigarcop 01-19-2014 04:52 PM

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Just built this one to sell.... Trued Rem 700, .223 Bartlien 1-8 chambered for the 75 Amax, obviously threaded for the Suppressor and sitting in an AI 2.0 Stock, Cerakoted in Black
Was very cold this morning but I managed to put 8 rds thru it with a makeshift load that didn't do to bad.

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y...pseo4zpnw6.jpg

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y...psqrrw87r7.jpg

Cigarcop 01-19-2014 04:55 PM

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Nice Grendel Shawn, I gave up on mine as it had its limitations at longer ranges but damn accurate for the short game.... Always enjoy seeing your stuff!

Keith

0002S 01-19-2014 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cigarcop (Post 1925305)
Nice Grendel Shawn, I gave up on mine as it had its limitations at longer ranges but damn accurate for the short game.... Always enjoy seeing your stuff!

Keith

Thanks, your builds are always in a class unto themselves.

This Grendel could be finicky. It got a 18" Liberty barrel and the throat seems a little short. Initial dummy rounds have 120 SMK at 2.230 OAL. Chamber is not to tight though. We shall see.

What were your experiences shooting at 600 / 800 / 1000?

Any favorite loads that you remember?

-Shawn

Cigarcop 01-19-2014 07:33 PM

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Shawn, I was shooting the 123 Amax & Scenars using IMR 8208 XBR with 28.5grs I had a Saturn Barrel..... Seemed past 500 yrds it just fell on its face where the 6mm's such as the 6BR, BRX, and the 6 Dasher make everything look bad because they are so accurate and easy to tune.

0002S 01-19-2014 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cigarcop (Post 1925350)
Shawn, I was shooting the 123 Amax & Scenars using IMR 8208 XBR with 28.5grs I had a Saturn Barrel..... Seemed past 500 yrds it just fell on its face where the 6mm's such as the 6BR, BRX, and the 6 Dasher make everything look bad because they are so accurate and easy to tune.

I'd like this to shoot well at 600. The round should be dropping 35-45 feet at 1000. I don't think I'm going to have any real success at 1000.

Cigarcop 01-20-2014 04:49 AM

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It will shoot OK Im sure Shawn, but I doubt it will be a 1/2 moa gun at 600 with any consistancy and certainly 1000 would be not even be close.
I also shot some factory ammo from mine with great results but that too fell off past 400.

Wish we lived closer brother!

sikk50 01-20-2014 06:09 PM

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Anybody know anything about the quality of PSA uppers?

cigarmonkel 01-20-2014 06:14 PM

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PSA stripped upper receiver or complete upper?

cigarmonkel 01-20-2014 06:27 PM

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If your doing a build and getting a stripped upper go with BCM. They have a track record that everyone swears by. I have many BCM parts on my build and have 0 problems with them. I've contacted customer support with questions about parts, availability, shipping and they have always been quick to respond and very professional and very helpful.

BCM is roughly 30-40 bucks more for a stripped upper which isn't much in the long run for a build. PSA is newer and IMO i'd rather spend 30-40 bucks more for a part I KNOW will be good, solid reliable. Nothing against PSA but I'll let the other guys spend their coin building PSA's track record up.

If your going for a complete upper then thats a different story. If you go PSA you will obviously save some money then if you were to go Colt, BCM or any other of the bigger name brands. Money could be used on fun stuff for the build or ammo. I believe Wilson makes the barrels for the PSA upper (where as I would assume) BCM makes their own barrels for their complete uppers. I have a 16" mid length 1/8" BCM barrel and so far, love it. I haven't had it out at any long distances yet. Also, what do you intend for your build to do? General purpose? Distance/bench rest?

emopunker2004 01-20-2014 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sikk50 (Post 1925660)
Anybody know anything about the quality of PSA uppers?

PSA is GTG. Don't get a PTAC I've heard hit or miss things about those.

My PSA upper ran just as good as my wife's LMT upper. If it has the CHF barrel even better. Those barrels are made by FHN/FN

sikk50 01-20-2014 07:13 PM

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Thanks for the responses guys. I'm looking for a complete upper. I'd be pairing it with a CMMG complete lower I already have. I just can't seem to find any Negetive reviews about PSA uppers, which is somewhat concerning in a weird way lol. Thanks for your quick responses guys


As for use, just general use and coyotes

emopunker2004 01-20-2014 07:28 PM

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Andrew. PSAs house brand items are great for the money. Beware, they're slow shippers usually so be patient.

CigarSquid 01-20-2014 08:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cigarmonkel (Post 1925663)
PSA stripped upper receiver or complete upper?

Everything on my AR is PSA except the stripped lower. Only about 100 rounds through it, nothing to complain about.

Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1925697)
Andrew. PSAs house brand items are great for the money. Beware, they're slow shippers usually so be patient.

It took about 2 weeks for mine, order to my house.

sikk50 01-21-2014 07:10 AM

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Thanks guys! Looks like I'll go ahead and order a PSA upper

Cigarcop 01-21-2014 10:33 AM

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Shawn, heres a pic of my Grendel

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y...p/Grendel1.jpg

cigarmonkel 01-21-2014 11:26 AM

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Ive read a few posts where the PSA uppers didnt fit the lowers. Probably was awhile ago though and im sure they fixed it.. I hope at least

Lockspur 01-21-2014 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1924492)
Picked up a TLR1S

Might stay on the Glock. Might go on the AK

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3710/1...35e06a0d_c.jpg
DSC00168 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

….but then again…today was a good day.

cigarmonkel 01-22-2014 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Lockspur (Post 1925932)
….but then again…today was a good day.

I see what you did there :r:r

CigarSquid 01-22-2014 07:44 AM

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See this..

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...merican-debut/

cigarmonkel 01-22-2014 07:45 AM

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I heard about that from the shot show. I would imagine its got some heft to it.

Lockspur 01-22-2014 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cigarmonkel (Post 1926278)
I heard about that from the shot show. I would imagine its got some heft to it.

twice the mag changes, twice the malfunctions…I mean…pull the trigger and no boom…you have twice the chambers to clear and reset. No thanks.

cigarmonkel 01-22-2014 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lockspur (Post 1926384)
twice the mag changes, twice the malfunctions…I mean…pull the trigger and no boom…you have twice the chambers to clear and reset. No thanks.

:tpd:. Unless they come out with some sort of hybrid complete badass BCG with ejectors on both sides of the bolt carrier... hmm... if someone wants this just take some tape and two AR-15's.. WHAMMY! The idea though isn't half bad in theory. If your gonna have two completely different systems on the same gun why not two different calibers? I think that would be a decent idea? You could have the standard 5.56 on one side then a 300 black out or a .308 ooohhh or maybe the new .300 win mag conversions people are starting to finally do. That would be interesting. I still wouldn't buy one though.

Would have 0 real world applications in the field. But would make for a fun range gun or wall piece.

8zeros 01-22-2014 01:02 PM

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Here's what you gotta do:
Take a Street Sweeper and slap an AR sideways on top of it.
Practical.

cigarmonkel 01-22-2014 01:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 8zeros (Post 1926395)
Here's what you gotta do:
Take a Street Sweeper and slap an AR sideways on top of it.
Practical.

master key?


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