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BlkDrew 01-24-2012 01:18 PM

Re: Rolling your own
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1539477)
I believe he just stamps them Mickey.

Haha I go to the hobby supply store and get a giant sheet of paper, then cut 1cm x 3 inch strips and stamp the letters on with individual rubber letter stamps. Cheaper than buying them online, most places want a $75 set up fee on top of the 100 you will spend on bands.


I don't smoke many of my own. But I have not heard a lot of bad. I will be having some this week when I go to Michigan as well as bringing some down this weekend.

DBall 01-24-2012 10:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1539382)
I am looking forward to meeting you this weekend!

Shane... are you coming out this way this weekend?

crazyirishman 01-24-2012 10:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1539486)
Haha I go to the hobby supply store and get a giant sheet of paper, then cut 1cm x 3 inch strips and stamp the letters on with individual rubber letter stamps. Cheaper than buying them online, most places want a $75 set up fee on top of the 100 you will spend on bands.


I don't smoke many of my own. But I have not heard a lot of bad. I will be having some this week when I go to Michigan as well as bringing some down this weekend.

Whereabouts in Michigan, sir?

BlkDrew 01-25-2012 02:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DBall (Post 1539799)
Shane... are you coming out this way this weekend?

Going to the Pittsburgh herf

@Crazyirishman- will be in Lansing for a funeral. Back to Rochester on Friday.

irratebass 01-25-2012 04:59 AM

Re: Rolling your own
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1539486)
Haha I go to the hobby supply store and get a giant sheet of paper, then cut 1cm x 3 inch strips and stamp the letters on with individual rubber letter stamps. Cheaper than buying them online, most places want a $75 set up fee on top of the 100 you will spend on bands.


I don't smoke many of my own. But I have not heard a lot of bad. I will be having some this week when I go to Michigan as well as bringing some down this weekend.

Thanks for the detailed info :tu

Blak Smyth 01-25-2012 05:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DBall (Post 1539799)
Shane... are you coming out this way this weekend?

No we are going to the Pittsburgh Herf:tu

BlkDrew 01-30-2012 03:19 PM

Re: Rolling your own
 
Well i had some Chevetas made up. I have 12, so if anyone is looking for one shoot me a PM.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1126.jpg

BlkDrew 01-31-2012 03:16 PM

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Just picked one of these up, now i will be able to do more lengths and get a cleaner cut.

http://pmb-uvainc.com/pmbtobacco_fil...les/TCUT_3.jpg

Blak Smyth 01-31-2012 04:16 PM

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Drew Looking good brother! Getting some pro looking parts!
It was great meeting you in Pitt and trying the Maddies. The one you gave Ken was definitley better than the lighter one I burned, better draw too. Mine was good but Kens was great!

maninblack 01-31-2012 08:20 PM

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Looking good Drew! You're gonna be the next big thing brother!

SteelCityBoy 02-01-2012 05:49 AM

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Keep up the good work Drew! I will be paying attention! Really loved the Roxy Maduro you gave me at the Pittsburgh Herf!

The bomb that those "Zombie Hunters" sent us contained a Roxy M....I selected it and will keep it all to myself!!!! Ha! Good stuff bro....

Keep it coming! :tu

BlkDrew 02-02-2012 12:43 PM

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if anyone is interested, I will have a new set of a test blend coming out. RG will be 52 and the wrappers will vary, some new dark leaves were given to me to try. pictures to come soon.

BlkDrew 02-03-2012 11:26 AM

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this cost a pretty penny... i think the handle is gold according to what was paid...
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1135.jpg
also some of the new sticks outer sets are 5.5x52, inners are 58x3.75
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1136.jpg

irratebass 02-03-2012 11:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1548405)
this cost a pretty penny... i think the handle is gold according to what was paid...
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1135.jpg
also some of the new sticks outer sets are 5.5x52, inners are 58x3.75
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1136.jpg

DAYUM! Those look tasty Andrew!!!!! Great job my friend. I want a ROXY sticker.

BlkDrew 02-03-2012 11:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by irratebass (Post 1548418)
DAYUM! Those look tasty Andrew!!!!! Great job my friend. I want a ROXY sticker.

hmm will have to get some made...

irratebass 02-03-2012 11:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1548428)
hmm will have to get some made...

:tu

guitar4001 02-04-2012 09:25 AM

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Hi there! I have been away from the asylum for a few months and I missed your thread about cigar rolling - it's very intriguing!

When I was in college (2002-2006) I rolled cigars. I acquired the various molds, tuck cutter, chaveta, rolling table, cigar glue, etc ever a period of about a year. I made roughly 3000 cigars over the 4 years, selling them to friends, a local store, and during promotional events in NC. I really enjoyed myself!

For labels (on the boxes and cigars), I used microsoft publisher to create a design (it was pretty easy to use) and printed a sheet of about 20 cigar bands at a time, cut them out by hand, and banded them onto the finished cigars with non-toxic glue sticks. The box labels were done in a similiar manner - created on MS publisher, printed, cut, and afixed to the box with a glue stick. I went to a cigar band printer with a design, but he wanted upwards of $1000 for the first printing of bands and they looked pretty bland. THe MS Publisher stuff looked better in the end.

All of my equipment was purchased second hand. The molds were purchased online through a variety of sources, most often through ebay for about $20.00 a piece. The tuck cutter (end cutter) came from ebay too for maybe $15.00. A friend who is a carpenter build me a collapseable rolling table that he modeled off of a rolling table at the Selma, NC JR Store. The chaveta was a repurposed Ulu knife from walmart. The "cigar glue" came from the local grocery store; liquid pectin. If I purchased all of my uqipment new, it would've cost me about $2000. I paid around $200.

The tobacco came from http://otoaocigars.com/main.htm.

Fast foward to 2012 and I am in the Army, married with 2 little boys, and pressed for time. I'd love to get back in the hobby, but now may not be the time.

I may have some MS Publisher templates for cigar bands on my PC if that interests you. Please keep at it, it looks like you are doing excellent with your latest creations. Thanks for sharing.

-Paul

Shawn hines 02-04-2012 12:12 PM

Re: Rolling your own
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by guitar4001 (Post 1549227)
Hi there! I have been away from the asylum for a few months and I missed your thread about cigar rolling - it's very intriguing!

When I was in college (2002-2006) I rolled cigars. I acquired the various molds, tuck cutter, chaveta, rolling table, cigar glue, etc ever a period of about a year. I made roughly 3000 cigars over the 4 years, selling them to friends, a local store, and during promotional events in NC. I really enjoyed myself!

For labels (on the boxes and cigars), I used microsoft publisher to create a design (it was pretty easy to use) and printed a sheet of about 20 cigar bands at a time, cut them out by hand, and banded them onto the finished cigars with non-toxic glue sticks. The box labels were done in a similiar manner - created on MS publisher, printed, cut, and afixed to the box with a glue stick. I went to a cigar band printer with a design, but he wanted upwards of $1000 for the first printing of bands and they looked pretty bland. THe MS Publisher stuff looked better in the end.

All of my equipment was purchased second hand. The molds were purchased online through a variety of sources, most often through ebay for about $20.00 a piece. The tuck cutter (end cutter) came from ebay too for maybe $15.00. A friend who is a carpenter build me a collapseable rolling table that he modeled off of a rolling table at the Selma, NC JR Store. The chaveta was a repurposed Ulu knife from walmart. The "cigar glue" came from the local grocery store; liquid pectin. If I purchased all of my uqipment new, it would've cost me about $2000. I paid around $200.

The tobacco came from http://otoaocigars.com/main.htm.

Fast foward to 2012 and I am in the Army, married with 2 little boys, and pressed for time. I'd love to get back in the hobby, but now may not be the time.

I may have some MS Publisher templates for cigar bands on my PC if that interests you. Please keep at it, it looks like you are doing excellent with your latest creations. Thanks for sharing.

-Paul

I am currently at Camp Patriot in Kuwait, if you got anything for the Military brothers, I would like to look at them...

BlkDrew 02-04-2012 06:34 PM

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ok back to the rolling aspects of things. I learned a couple neats tricks from a great guy. In order to do a pigtail, either long or short, you cut your cap with the cap tool ( copper pipe) and make a pac man ( cut a V in the cap) so you can go around the pigtail.

Worked out great.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1140.jpg

I also have a 3.75x58 "~nub" that has an aged wrapper.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1141.jpg

Homebrewer 02-04-2012 11:00 PM

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I need a lot of help with caps. Maybe you could do a video or series of photos w/ explanation. Your cigars look great.

maninblack 02-05-2012 06:54 AM

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PM sent on the nub sized smoke Andrew.

joeobx 02-05-2012 09:17 AM

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Andrew, I just looked back at your first pics in Oct and the ones you posted yesterday and all I can say is WOW. After reading the reviews I will definitely be picking up some in the future.
Looking good:tu

irratebass 02-05-2012 10:03 AM

Re: Rolling your own
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1549708)
ok back to the rolling aspects of things. I learned a couple neats tricks from a great guy. In order to do a pigtail, either long or short, you cut your cap with the cap tool ( copper pipe) and make a pac man ( cut a V in the cap) so you can go around the pigtail.

Worked out great.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1140.jpg

I also have a 3.75x58 "~nub" that has an aged wrapper.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1141.jpg

Looks solid Andrew! Great stuff :tu

schollianmj 02-05-2012 11:22 AM

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Sweet, Roxy Nubs.... :) or wait, Nub is trademarked, and Roxy was taken from your dog.... So, Roxy Pugs?:banger

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a21...j/IMAG0221.jpg

irratebass 02-05-2012 11:26 AM

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Cute dog :tu

BlkDrew 02-05-2012 11:26 AM

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Or stub. But the pug pic is funny.

schollianmj 02-07-2012 08:53 AM

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I had a Dobie Rotti mix about 10 years ago, i work with a lot of shepards, yet somehow my wife talked me into getting a Pug... im confused. Dont judge me... :)

Blak Smyth 02-07-2012 08:57 AM

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Loving the pigtails Andrew!
Maybe a good feature on the Brain Sticks?

A Couple other names could be :
Stump
Shank
Butt

Crownedone 02-11-2012 03:11 PM

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Just recently came off the road and the first smoke I wanted to try was the maduro roxy. It had a good pre light smell and flavor, eventhough the prelite draw was abit tight I lit it up. Dispite it being young it burned well and lasted about 90min without a relight. It's flavor was boardering on greatness but must set longer. The rest will stay put for a few months to see how they mature. Love these smokes.

hammondc 02-11-2012 03:13 PM

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Damn bro. You are getting hella good at it.

cobra03 02-12-2012 01:22 AM

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I really enjoyed the Roxy M's i have been smoking and just got a 5er of Roxy S in the mail from Andrew. They look fantastic. They are taking a little nap before i try them. I'll let you guys know how they smoke when i try one next week.

dom1n8r 02-12-2012 04:57 AM

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Andrew...I'd like to try out some of your Roxys. Can you PM me so we can discuss a sell?

D

BlkDrew 02-17-2012 03:55 PM

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wow, almost hit the second page... we should make this a Sticky... who knows maybe some day.
I just purchased a bunch more of the Maduro leaves already opened from LeafOnly, although this time i think they really over wetted them.

I also purchased through the guy in Ohio, Whole Leaf tobacco, i still have yet to receive his shipment, but i bought through ebay. I purchased a lb of the Dominican Liger, and Dominican Seco.

Who else has purchased from him? how was the tobacco when you got it?

DaBear 02-17-2012 08:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1563214)
wow, almost hit the second page... we should make this a Sticky... who knows maybe some day.
I just purchased a bunch more of the Maduro leaves already opened from LeafOnly, although this time i think they really over wetted them.

I also purchased through the guy in Ohio, Whole Leaf tobacco, i still have yet to receive his shipment, but i bought through ebay. I purchased a lb of the Dominican Liger, and Dominican Seco.

Who else has purchased from him? how was the tobacco when you got it?

I purchased from him, but I don't believe he has Dominican tobacco, all the stuff listed on his site is US grown. :confused:

It doesn't come opened or anything, but the leaf comes at a decent moisture to make destemming fairly easy. If you open the bag the leaves are shipped in and let them sit over night, the destemming is a little less of a hassle, the leaf likes to stick to your fingers the way its shipped and can lead to some tears. Overall hes a good place to go, but I wasn't a big fan of the flavors from the tobacco, very mildly flavored, the broadleaf wrapper was just about all I could taste.

boxmonkey 02-18-2012 01:55 PM

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Anyone else notice BLH industries website has been down? and they aren't responding to emails. I'm wanting to get some new molds, but want to get away from the wood molds. Anyone know where I can find another place making composite molds?

BlkDrew 02-18-2012 02:40 PM

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Justo Fulgueiras & Son makes some, but they have a minimum qty that you have to purchase.

Blh may be down to restructure, I know they started doing new molds and may not have inventory for private sale.

boxmonkey 02-18-2012 03:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1564183)
Justo Fulgueiras & Son makes some, but they have a minimum qty that you have to purchase.

Blh may be down to restructure, I know they started doing new molds and may not have inventory for private sale.

their website is down. only way to view it is cashed.

I think I found their site and it was like 40$ a mold and you needed to order at least 10. not looking to spend that much money on a mold right now. even though that means I can bunch many cigars and then come back and wrap them. I just don't know about spending 400 on a hobby I just started. maybe in 10 years when I open my own cigar lounge.

BlkDrew 02-20-2012 12:56 PM

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messing around... this is easier to do with the thinner wrapper leaves, the thicker, ie. Maduro is hard to do this with.

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1152.jpg

Blak Smyth 02-20-2012 12:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1565796)
messing around... this is easier to do with the thinner wrapper leaves, the thicker, ie. Maduro is hard to do this with.

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1152.jpg

You are such a badass! :tu

BlkDrew 02-20-2012 01:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1565797)
You are such a badass! :tu

I hope you just want the short pig tail. ;)

Blak Smyth 02-20-2012 01:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1565857)
I hope you just want the short pig tail. ;)

Whatevers fine brother :tu

This is a gorgeous design here, don't think I have seen a Lancero with a curled pigtail before:
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...8WS3I0zMVhDiHA

cobra03 02-20-2012 09:51 PM

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Andrew i smoked one of those Roxy S i just got while i was on my ice fishing trip. Found it to be a little milder than the M but tasty. The construction was great. Draw was a hair tight but it burnt like a champ. Stayed even despite 20mph winds on the ice no touch ups.

BlkDrew 02-26-2012 05:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBear (Post 1563451)
I purchased from him, but I don't believe he has Dominican tobacco, all the stuff listed on his site is US grown. :confused:

It doesn't come opened or anything, but the leaf comes at a decent moisture to make destemming fairly easy. If you open the bag the leaves are shipped in and let them sit over night, the destemming is a little less of a hassle, the leaf likes to stick to your fingers the way its shipped and can lead to some tears. Overall hes a good place to go, but I wasn't a big fan of the flavors from the tobacco, very mildly flavored, the broadleaf wrapper was just about all I could taste.

Well I made a purchase through him, did not like what i got so i returned it. He feels as though i am working for some guy from Leaf Only and that i just wanted to find out what he was selling.

Long story short is i returned the tobacco with DC and he is not giving me a refund. here is the email conversation.


Yeah, right...you're going to leave negative feedback any way i refund you're order. You're a plant from LeafOnly and I don't sell on ebay anyway. Go ahad and leave your feedback. I'll be smoking LeafOnly sooner than they can say "fire it up"

Cute maneuver Rich. I never knew about you before I started WholeLeaf. You will soon learn you've chosen the wrong enemy.

Regards,

Don Carey
WholeLeafTobacco.com

btw...no refund will be issued



-----Original Message-----
From: winterstick66 <winterstick66@aol.com>
To: willbuild14u <willbuild14u@aol.com>
Sent: Sat, Feb 25, 2012 6:44 am
Subject: Re: Purchase through ebay

Hi Don,

I saw that it was delivered. Do you know when the refund will be given?

Thanks

Andrew

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 24, 2012, at 3:05 AM, willbuild14u@aol.com wrote:

Thank you for your reply. Now that I know you know what you're talking about, I'll be happy to refund your full purchase price.

In four years of doing business, you're the first person to ever complain and it was VERY important to me to understand what your problem was.

So, if you don't mind me asking....where do you get your long filler from and what do you pay for it?

Please join the FairTradeTobacco.com forum and share your knowledge about tobacco.

Thanks,

Don Carey

fencefixer 02-26-2012 05:18 AM

Re: Rolling your own
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1565796)
messing around... this is easier to do with the thinner wrapper leaves, the thicker, ie. Maduro is hard to do this with.

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1152.jpg

You're not seriously using the Cisco/Linksys wireless router setup wizard disc, are you? :sl

maninblack 02-26-2012 07:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1565796)
messing around... this is easier to do with the thinner wrapper leaves, the thicker, ie. Maduro is hard to do this with.

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1152.jpg

That pigtail looks awesome!! You got some for sale?

BlkDrew 02-26-2012 07:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maninblack (Post 1572279)
That pigtail looks awesome!! You got some for sale?

I can do some.


I posted earlier about my dealings with another tobacco company, which is why the thread was brought back.

maninblack 02-26-2012 07:40 AM

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Is that a habano wrapper with a pigtail? Maduro would be sweet but it would be hard to do.

Fredo456 02-26-2012 10:02 AM

Re: Rolling your own
 
I just read through the whole thread.

Very interesting, and I'll try hard not to get into this hobby (at least not yet).

I was wondering: Why are the cigars stored in a regular cabinet instead of a humidor?

Thanks.

DaBear 02-26-2012 10:31 AM

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Well dang. I wasn't planning on buying from WLT again, but now I for sure will not. Sorry to hear about that Andrew

BlkDrew 02-26-2012 11:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredo456 (Post 1572376)
I just read through the whole thread.

Very interesting, and I'll try hard not to get into this hobby (at least not yet).

I was wondering: Why are the cigars stored in a regular cabinet instead of a humidor?

Thanks.

They are kept in there for 1-2 weeks then they go in my Humi. since the wrappers are so moist when rolled it gives them a chance to even out with the rest of the tobacco before being put in the humidor, it works the best so that is why i do it.


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