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The Professor 06-25-2010 05:59 AM

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After almost a day of playing with the phone nearly constantly, i think I can safely say that this is the most insanely amazing electronic device I've ever used. :banger Aside from the alleged design flaw (which I cannot replicate with any degree of consistency or predictability to conclude it's an *actual* flaw), the iPhone 4 both beautiful and functionally lightyears beyond anything I've ever used ... especially the Blackberry from which I'm switching over.

shilala 06-25-2010 06:06 AM

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I'm still slathering over OS 4.0. I can't imagine how I'd be acting if I had moved to iphone 4.
Congratulations to all you guys, especially Dokk. You've been assimilated!!! :tu

Blueface 06-25-2010 06:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 898701)
I'm still slathering over OS 4.0. I can't imagine how I'd be acting if I had moved to iphone 4.
Congratulations to all you guys, especially Dokk. You've been assimilated!!! :tu

Scott,
The OS 4 is a mess with the 3 and 3G. The phones have actually slowed down a lot.
I think Apple messed up in putting that system on an older phone that was likely really intended for the 4. Or, on the other hand, maybe it was intentional to sell more 4's.
With the iPhone 4, you fly through it, literally. It is so, so fast as compared to the 3 series.
The screen is amazing.
The feel is awesome.

Candidly, regardless of whether one is an Apple fan or not, you cannot help but be awed by this phone if you use it. As Dokk said, truly an incredible device and a testament to Apple's innovativeness when it comes to this type of technology. Love them or hate them, they totally rock. I am just glad as heck I am on the "user" side.:D

BTW,
Fact Time is a riot.
Awesome to be able to toggle back and forth between front camera and back camera, even while on a conversation.
Truly innovative.

Wanger 06-25-2010 06:50 AM

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Wife ordered one to replace hers, and I don't know when it's supposed to arrive. Then she said she tried to order one for me, but couldn't, as I want to keep my phone number, so we'll have to go into a store and do that. Evidently, they are going to be out at the local stores until July 2nd. So we'll see how things go next Friday or Saturday or so.

Can't wait to get it. :D

goalie204 06-25-2010 06:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 898708)
Scott,
With the iPhone 4, you fly through it, literally.

I remember back when literally wasn't used as gross exaggeration and actually just meant..in a literal manner...or just meant "really" or "actually". But i guess the only constant is change :)

</threadjack>

Back to your regularly scheduled iphone 4 thread :)

Blueface 06-25-2010 06:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goalie204 (Post 898741)
I remember back when literally wasn't used as gross exaggeration and actually just meant..in a literal manner...or just meant "really" or "actually". But i guess the only constant is change :)

</threadjack>

Back to your regularly scheduled iphone 4 thread :)

Myles,
Since you are going to threadjack to teach me English, let me correct you.
When I said you fly through it, literally, there is no error in my ways or usage.
I emphasized "you fly through it", which is the meaning, intent or use of literally.

Here you go:
usage Since some people take sense 2 to be the opposite of sense 1, it has been frequently criticized as a misuse. Instead, the use is pure hyperbole intended to gain emphasis, but it often appears in contexts where no additional emphasis is necessary.

In my case, I felt compelled to emphasize "you fly through it" and hence literally applies.
However, an English teacher I am not and heck if it matters in a discussion about a phone.

newcigarz 06-25-2010 07:10 AM

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Taking the bike for a ride, gonna stop at Bestbuy and look at their cases.

Blueface 06-25-2010 07:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 898757)
Taking the bike for a ride, gonna stop at Bestbuy and look at their cases.

Good thing I got one last night.
Phone almost took its first dive this a.m. Caught it in time. Had it fallen, I am sure that cover would have done the trick.
Stay away from the bumper. It only covers the edges and leaves the back exposed.
The bumper is an Apple exclusive but Best Buy does have a copy cat version.

shilala 06-25-2010 07:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 898708)
Scott,
The OS 4 is a mess with the 3 and 3G. The phones have actually slowed down a lot.
I think Apple messed up in putting that system on an older phone that was likely really intended for the 4. Or, on the other hand, maybe it was intentional to sell more 4's.
With the iPhone 4, you fly through it, literally. It is so, so fast as compared to the 3 series.
The screen is amazing.
The feel is awesome.

Candidly, regardless of whether one is an Apple fan or not, you cannot help but be awed by this phone if you use it. As Dokk said, truly an incredible device and a testament to Apple's innovativeness when it comes to this type of technology. Love them or hate them, they totally rock. I am just glad as heck I am on the "user" side.:D

BTW,
Fact Time is a riot.
Awesome to be able to toggle back and forth between front camera and back camera, even while on a conversation.
Truly innovative.

I read about OS 4 sucking on the 3G. I didn't think it was even available for the 3.
Me and Weeze both have the 3Gs. I haven't suffered any slowdown whatsoever. If anything, it's a lot faster. I use the home double click psuedo multitasking feature constantly. When I learned you can swipe the multitask bar and see all the stuff you have used all day, it made things even faster.
I don't have to dig through screens anymore!!! :)
Today I started putting my crap in folders.
Oh yeah, on the faster...
The camera is so much faster, it literally screams now. I'm happy of it because I send a lot of text pics to Lisa. Lots of little videos, too. The whole camera/video thing has improved dramatically.
I haven't even scratched the surface of allthe new stuff. When I get time, I'll watch some "new features" videos and get educated.
On the screen, I have an ipad. I believe it uses the same glass/resolution.
Even if it doesn't, it's insanely gorgeous HD. I'm looking forward to the OS 4 for the ipad, but it won't be nearly the upgrade it was for my 3Gs, unless they come up with more features.
If there's one thing I'll use, it'll be the ability to use Pandora while I'm reading or surfing. :tu

Blueface 06-25-2010 07:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 898765)
I read about OS 4 sucking on the 3G. I didn't think it was even available for the 3.
Me and Weeze both have the 3Gs. I haven't suffered any slowdown whatsoever. If anything, it's a lot faster. I use the home double click psuedo multitasking feature constantly. When I learned you can swipe the multitask bar and see all the stuff you have used all day, it made things even faster.
I don't have to dig through screens anymore!!! :)
Today I started putting my crap in folders.
Oh yeah, on the faster...
The camera is so much faster, it literally screams now. I'm happy of it because I send a lot of text pics to Lisa. Lots of little videos, too. The whole camera/video thing has improved dramatically.
I haven't even scratched the surface of allthe new stuff. When I get time, I'll watch some "new features" videos and get educated.
On the screen, I have an ipad. I believe it uses the same glass/resolution.
Even if it doesn't, it's insanely gorgeous HD. I'm looking forward to the OS 4 for the ipad, but it won't be nearly the upgrade it was for my 3Gs, unless they come up with more features.
If there's one thing I'll use, it'll be the ability to use Pandora while I'm reading or surfing. :tu

Jr. has the 3GS and he is the one that told me he was crawling.
Glad to hear yours runs good. He may have had a bad day.

The camera on the 4 is quite fast. Truly a breath of fresh air over the prior version I had. Not sure how the digital zoom looks on the 3G but very sharp on the 4. The HD video and the in camera editing is quite neat also.

Blueface 06-25-2010 07:43 AM

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Another big difference from my 3 is the battery.
I have not charged it all since picking it up around lunch time yesterday.
Used it all afternoon into evening.
Left it on overnight.
Still have about 3/4 of the battery life.
I did have it connected for a while to the laptop while I restored by information and it did get a brief charge there but I still think this is quite good compared to what I had.

Mindflux 06-25-2010 08:13 AM

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3GS is fast for me with iOS4 but battery life has suffered.

Sean9689 06-25-2010 08:34 AM

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Got the 4 on 6/23 and have been loving it ever since. I didn't think the difference between the 3GS and 4 would be so dramatic, but I was wrong. Amazing phone!

Starscream 06-25-2010 09:20 AM

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If you have a reception problem, "just don't hold it that way".:r

Mindflux 06-25-2010 09:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 898913)
If you have a reception problem, "just don't hold it that way".:r

meh.

Anything with an antenna has attenuation problems when you add non conductive mass to it. (eg attaching a 200 lb man to the phone)

0002S 06-25-2010 09:34 AM

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No matter how hard I try to make the reception issue happen, I can't reproduce it.

I've tried to hold it every way possible and still get 5 bars

Something tells me this is a manufacturing and components supplier issue only effecting certain phones.

Blueface 06-25-2010 09:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 0002S (Post 898938)
No matter how hard I try to make the reception issue happen, I can't reproduce it.

I've tried to hold it every way possible and still get 5 bars

Something tells me this is a manufacturing and components supplier issue only effecting certain phones.

Totally agree.
I tried until I turned blue.
My son also tried.
Neither one of us could make the bars budge.

Starscream 06-25-2010 09:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 0002S (Post 898938)
No matter how hard I try to make the reception issue happen, I can't reproduce it.

I've tried to hold it every way possible and still get 5 bars

Something tells me this is a manufacturing and components supplier issue only effecting certain phones.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 898962)
Totally agree.
I tried until I turned blue.
My son also tried.
Neither one of us could make the bars budge.

Your holding it wrong.;)

Blueface 06-25-2010 10:30 AM

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Gotta say, I spent some time last week comparing a friend's Droid to my 3.
In retro, with my new 4, I can candidly say Droid DOESN'T.:D

newcigarz 06-25-2010 11:41 AM

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For all you lonely iphone 4 owners who have no one to FaceTime with.

Call Apple 1-888-FACETIME :tu

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/06/25/...t-and-testing/

shilala 06-25-2010 11:56 AM

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You guys remember when video telephone was just on The Jetsons?

fissure 06-25-2010 12:08 PM

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Anyone keep having the voice mail password message pop up? Never have had a password, and have it turned off in the settings, but it still keeps asking for one. Says I need to contact ATT if I forgot the password I never set up. Sometimes it pops up when not even in the VM screen. This is on a 3GS with the new software. Never did it until it was updated.

Blueface 06-25-2010 12:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fissure (Post 899092)
Anyone keep having the voice mail password message pop up? Never have had a password, and have it turned off in the settings, but it still keeps asking for one. Says I need to contact ATT if I forgot the password I never set up. Sometimes it pops up when not even in the VM screen. This is on a 3GS with the new software. Never did it until it was updated.

Yup.
Happened to me.
Once I input it, was all set.
Contact AT&T if you don't remember yours.

sikk50 06-25-2010 12:18 PM

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I can't wait for mine to get here. There were like 300 ppl in line yesterday at the apple store in Santa Barbara and that was at 4pm. My 3G is painfully slow with os4.

You know I was thinking about that apple face tome thing and the first thought I had was it is going to end up like chat roulet...

Mindflux 06-25-2010 12:25 PM

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Interesting info on antennas in phones.

http://www.antennasys.com/antennasys...-antennas.html

sikk50 06-25-2010 12:31 PM

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Also I'm having to charge my battery twice a day! Luckly I have a charger in my patrol truck or it wouldn't make it through a full shift!

The Professor 06-25-2010 02:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 898962)
Totally agree.
I tried until I turned blue.
My son also tried.
Neither one of us could make the bars budge.

I was able to get it to budge one bar here in my office today; but that's it. Still no dropped calls or poor reception. Still loving the damned thing. I have a WiFi connection (and used 3G while out of the office) and I've been using it fairly regularly for email, text, photos, facebook, web, and (yes) phone calls all day. Off the charger since 6:30 this morning and I'm sitting at 62%. I think it'll last until bedtime tonight pretty easily.

Blueface 06-25-2010 03:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 899231)
I was able to get it to budge one bar here in my office today; but that's it. Still no dropped calls or poor reception. Still loving the damned thing. I have a WiFi connection (and used 3G while out of the office) and I've been using it fairly regularly for email, text, photos, facebook, web, and (yes) phone calls all day. Off the charger since 6:30 this morning and I'm sitting at 62%. I think it'll last until bedtime tonight pretty easily.

I haven't charged it yet since walking out of the Apple store yesterday.
After much use, I am now down to about 1/3 of the battery level.

Starscream 06-25-2010 03:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 898969)
Your holding it wrong.;)

Just to be clear, I'm not knocking Apple or the Iphone 4. congrats to everyone who bought one.:tu

0002S 06-25-2010 04:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sikk50 (Post 899114)
Also I'm having to charge my battery twice a day! Luckly I have a charger in my patrol truck or it wouldn't make it through a full shift!

BT + wifi + full bright + talking runs the battery down real quick.

Samsquanch 06-25-2010 04:31 PM

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Stood in line for 20 minutes this morning, glad I didn't waste hours in line yesterday! Loving this phone, of course my productivity at work today dropped to practically nil.

No yellowing of the screen. No reduced signal when holding it, no matter how hard I try. I have seen some reports of broken phones though, so be careful and buy a case. I'm avoiding the Apple "Bumper" case, $29 for a piece of molded rubber that probably costs $.25 to make?? Crazy, plenty of aftermarket options headed our way.

Samsquanch 06-25-2010 04:33 PM

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Wondering who out there has a good iPhone Cigar app? Something with inventory controls, info on cigars, ratings perhaps. It would be sick if we could take a picture of a cigar and it would look it up...

J0eybb 06-25-2010 04:36 PM

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Will it blend?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLreo24WYeQ

Blueface 06-25-2010 05:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andpeo23 (Post 899354)
Stood in line for 20 minutes this morning, glad I didn't waste hours in line yesterday! Loving this phone, of course my productivity at work today dropped to practically nil.

No yellowing of the screen. No reduced signal when holding it, no matter how hard I try. I have seen some reports of broken phones though, so be careful and buy a case. I'm avoiding the Apple "Bumper" case, $29 for a piece of molded rubber that probably costs $.25 to make?? Crazy, plenty of aftermarket options headed our way.

That's great.
Where on Earth did you manage to get one today?

sikk50 06-25-2010 06:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andpeo23 (Post 899356)
Wondering who out there has a good iPhone Cigar app? Something with inventory controls, info on cigars, ratings perhaps. It would be sick if we could take a picture of a cigar and it would look it up...

Our own KenS. It's called Mobile Stogie

WyGuy 06-25-2010 07:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sikk50 (Post 899465)
Our own KenS. It's called Mobile Stogie

:tu Great app!

The Professor 06-26-2010 06:17 AM

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Interesting theory abouft the antena issue.

http://nyti.ms/d3CUAA

shilala 06-26-2010 07:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 899767)
Interesting theory abouft the antena issue.

http://nyti.ms/d3CUAA

Dokk, there's a link on page about colors.
Wanna bet the next rev is funky colors? It makes sense. Makes the design change make a lot of sense, too. Since the hardware is so far ahead of the curve, there's plenty of time to add colors and an OS update.

The Professor 06-26-2010 08:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 899801)
Dokk, there's a link on page about colors.
Wanna bet the next rev is funky colors? It makes sense. Makes the design change make a lot of sense, too. Since the hardware is so far ahead of the curve, there's plenty of time to add colors and an OS update.

I don't think they'll do it. Apple's move in recent years has been *away* from bright, flashy things and *toward* minimalist, industrial design. They did the flashy colors years ago with the iMac ... and then they stopped. Their push has been to do a few things and do them well -- don't overwhelm the consumers with too many choices at the top level; just offer a few models make them well.

I was surprised, honestly, to see so many options with the bumpers since they've basically left the colorful accessory market up to 3rd parties.

Anyway, I could be wrong about all that. Based on everything I've seen, though (recently and going all the way back to Steve Jobs's return to the company), I can't see them going beyond black, white, and metal (aluminum and stainless steel, for the time being).

:2

PS, and I think there's going to be an iOS 4.0.1 update on Monday or Tuesday at the latest, which will fix the antenna and possibly the proximity sensor sensitivity (I face-dialed someone yesterday when the phone angled away from my ear). Appleinsider has a story about the software fix: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles..._ios_4_01.html

shilala 06-26-2010 09:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 899814)
I don't think they'll do it. Apple's move in recent years has been *away* from bright, flashy things and *toward* minimalist, industrial design. They did the flashy colors years ago with the iMac ... and then they stopped. Their push has been to do a few things and do them well -- don't overwhelm the consumers with too many choices at the top level; just offer a few models make them well.

I was surprised, honestly, to see so many options with the bumpers since they've basically left the colorful accessory market up to 3rd parties.

Anyway, I could be wrong about all that. Based on everything I've seen, though (recently and going all the way back to Steve Jobs's return to the company), I can't see them going beyond black, white, and metal (aluminum and stainless steel, for the time being).

:2

PS, and I think there's going to be an iOS 4.0.1 update on Monday or Tuesday at the latest, which will fix the antenna and possibly the proximity sensor sensitivity (I face-dialed someone yesterday when the phone angled away from my ear). Appleinsider has a story about the software fix: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles..._ios_4_01.html

You oughta see the ipods, Dokk. The innovation has really slipped since they added umpteen colors. They even make special colors for special causes.
Apple cycles. Right now they have all their minds on the ipad and the iphone 4. Now that they're loosed up, I expect they'll roll out tons of these ideas in ipod. Ipod touch is due for an update, too. Facetime and OS 4.0 will be huge on the touch. It'd sell a billion units. Any kid worth their salt has a touch, and if they aren't carrying one, they want one.
At second thought, Facetime might be a little scary with ipod touch with all the issues about kids getting sexy over broadband. It'd probably meet a lot of controversy, so they may stay away from camera-ing up the touch. Jobs has been in love with colors since the Mac. I think he likes colors even more cause Gates made foolish of him for it. He said something like "So Purple is an innovation in computing?"
iPhone is so hot right now that I can't see colors real soon, but I'd bet on it for the next rollout. The design allows for it now, it didn't before. Even if it doesn't happen, it's had to be on their minds when they went with the like front and back.
I'd totally rock a dark red 4Gs. :D

sikk50 06-26-2010 12:23 PM

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Got an email last night that my phone shipped! 5days ahead of schedule!

Samsquanch 06-26-2010 12:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 899418)
That's great.
Where on Earth did you manage to get one today?

Apple store- they released all the reserved ones that didn't get picked up on Thursday.

smitdavi 06-26-2010 02:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sikk50 (Post 900023)
Got an email last night that my phone shipped! 5days ahead of schedule!

Damn.....I keep checking to see if I will get mine shipped out early.

crossingfingers

Wanger 06-28-2010 06:55 AM

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We stopped at the store yesterday to play with them a bit, and realized that I wasn't on a reserve list. I am now. :D After playing with one for a bit, I definitely like the functionality of it. Hopefully I'll get the e-mail relatively soon that I need to go pick it up, but I won't be holding my breath.

sikk50 06-28-2010 09:28 AM

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Two more days!

Blueface 06-29-2010 04:08 PM

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Picked up my phone on day one last Thursday and used it with the charge it came with.
Since then, I have used it non stop.
I just charged it for the 3rd time since getting it.
This new battery is amazing!!!

On a funny note, my 3 yr old grandson, who always plays with my iPhone, immediately notices I have a new one and was handing him the old one to play with.

He repeatedly insisted on seeing the new one and I kept telling him they were both the same. Eventually, I gave in. The moment he turned it on, I swear his response was "Wow". His eyes lit up and immediately told me, I really like this new iPhone. He went on to repeat it over and over.

Moral of that story.......................even a 3 year old can figure out the new iPhone rocks!!!

sikk50 06-29-2010 04:26 PM

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Mines on it's way from Memphis to LA right now. Schedualed to be in my hand by 10:30am tomorrow!

CigarNut 06-29-2010 08:33 PM

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I was not going to get an iPhone 4 right away -- but I dropped my 3GS this weekend and the screen shattered... The InvisiShield is all that is holding it together... I went in to the AT&T store today and picked one up. Now I just need to get a case :)

Just finished syncing it, so I have not really spent any time using it, but am looking forward to it!

Chainsaw13 06-29-2010 08:45 PM

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Figures, I just ordered a Iphone 4 today. All in all though, I can't complain too much about AT&T's service/coverage.

http://www.detnews.com/article/20100...one-in-January

Samsquanch 06-29-2010 09:06 PM

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Yeah, I figure the iPhone wouldn't be the best selling phone in history if AT&T was that bad. I'm a new iPhone user and AT&T subscriber and have no complaints thus far (after 5 days)...


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