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DavenportESQ 07-30-2009 04:46 PM

Re: Sometimes you call a spade a spade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by markem (Post 487349)
No offense Lu (and I'll buy your drinks at our next herf if I did inadvertently offend you) but what of the lessons you list is new to anyone here? Does anyone read the stickies?

Why would anyone fail to leave meaningful feedback or trader information and why would anyone who suspects that they were taken remain silent (besides the obvious embarrassment factor)?

I think that this thread, early one, provided a cathartic release for those involved, but it has long since left that behind.

For once :tpd:
:r

Buena Fortuna 07-30-2009 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottw (Post 487258)
Maybe that mentality will help prevent this **** from happening again.

I seriously doubt it...it's a flawed world we live in filled with flawed people...including me and everyone here in the CA
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bigloo 07-30-2009 04:47 PM

Re: Sometimes you call a spade a spade
 
Mark,

I call it the ebay effect. I will be the first to admit that while the majority of my feedback is accurate, I have left positive feedback for people who have not lived up to their end of the deal. I have never been screwed to the point where I recieved nothing, but I have had 2-3 week delayed shipping, received blind trade sticks well below par, etc, etc. I ignore the problems in fear that they will also leave poor feedback for me. I think this is a wider problem. It would honestly take theft to get me to leave negetive feedback which luckily has not happened to me. I believe people like Dan have warning signs well before they finish taking peoples money.

As far as the use of the thread, we are in agreement which is why I tried (maybe foolishly) to change its direction.

Lu

Darrell 07-30-2009 04:47 PM

Re: Sometimes you call a spade a spade
 
This thread has gotten so far from the original subject and has turned into a fight between brothers who have never scammed or hurt anyone on here.

It's time to take a deep breath and walk away from the thread. Anything contributed from this point will likely be clouded by anger and completely counter-productive.

[/soap box]

G G 07-30-2009 04:48 PM

Re: Sometimes you call a spade a spade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Buena Fortuna (Post 487364)
I seriously doubt it...it's a flawed world we live in filled with flawed people...including me and everyone here in the CA
Posted via Mobile Device

Cannot argue with you there.:banger

The Poet 07-30-2009 04:50 PM

Re: Sometimes you call a spade a spade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 487367)
This thread has gotten so far from the original subject and has turned into a fight between brothers who have never scammed or hurt anyone on here.

It's time to take a deep breath and walk away from the thread. Anything contributed from this point will likely be clouded by anger and completely counter-productive.

[/soap box]

FWIW, :tpd:

floydpink 07-30-2009 04:52 PM

Re: Sometimes you call a spade a spade
 
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bigloo 07-30-2009 04:54 PM

Re: Sometimes you call a spade a spade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 487379)
No dog in this fight myself, feel sorrry for those screwed over, hope the guy gets his due karma and all that, but....

This one really has me confused. Why on Earth did you leave "glowing feedback" when you were "totally screwed over" ???????

Been trying to stay out of controversy this year, but for the life of me, I can't make sense of this statement.

Read more... should become apparent (the "ebay" effect). No problem with the question though, I think truthful feedback is a problem and I dont believe the feedback left here (myself included) is always accurate.

CigarDood 07-30-2009 05:04 PM

Re: Sometimes you call a spade a spade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigloo (Post 487335)
Mark,

If folks want to have a civilized conversation about these incidents, how to prevent them, how to improve things, I see no reason to lock the thread.

Lu

:tpd:

floydpink 07-30-2009 05:06 PM

Re: Sometimes you call a spade a spade
 
sorry, found your "ebay" thread after I posted, then deleted after reading more, which is tough in these multi page threads.

Hopefully I'm not a dying breed that speaks it as I mean it, and leaves feedback according to my experiences. not changing that for anything either.

You do nobody a favor, but the seller, by hiding negative experiences.

Starscream 07-30-2009 05:06 PM

Re: Sometimes you call a spade a spade
 
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/pictur...pictureid=2509

This guy stole one of my cigars. He needs to be banned too.













(Just thought I would try to lighten the mood.);s

CigarDood 07-30-2009 05:09 PM

Re: Sometimes you call a spade a spade
 
http://downloads.shizo.eu/Crossfire/...s_business.jpg



This is the ultimate lighten the mood picture. :D

Don Fernando 07-30-2009 05:15 PM

Re: Sometimes you call a spade a spade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by markem (Post 487248)
Wow. And because it was already in public on the trader feedback you felt that you just had to drag it into here? This thread has a nasty gang mentality that isn't reflecting well on this board.

Mark, I like to warm my fellow botl's for scammers, that's all.

Buena Fortuna 07-30-2009 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin (Post 487337)

Dan turned me into a newt :)
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bobarian 07-30-2009 05:38 PM

Re: Sometimes you call a spade a spade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Fernando (Post 487431)
Mark, I like to warm my fellow botl's for scammers, that's all.

Unless you have personally been "scammed" and have discussed the situation with the mods, then such "warning" is unnecessary and beyond the spirit of CA. :rolleyes:

icehog3 07-30-2009 05:39 PM

Re: Sometimes you call a spade a spade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Fernando (Post 487431)
Mark, I like to warm my fellow botl's for scammers, that's all.

But what if someone thinks another member is a scammer, but has no real proof, or is prejudiced, or mistaken, but we just let them call the person out on the Forum anyway? There are some ways to handle this to make sure everyone is as protected as possible. :2

icehog3 07-30-2009 05:39 PM

Re: Sometimes you call a spade a spade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian (Post 487480)
Unless you have personally been "scammed" and have discussed the situation with the mods, then such "warning" is unnecessary and beyond the spirit of CA. :rolleyes:

Beat me to it, Bob. :)

bobarian 07-30-2009 05:46 PM

Re: Sometimes you call a spade a spade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 487484)
Beat me to it, Bob. :)

:wo A first!

poker 07-30-2009 05:49 PM

Re: Sometimes you call a spade a spade
 
Ok folks, I think most of us said what they wanted to say, and those that are out money got a chance to vent.

Its run its course. Move along, nothing more to see.


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