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Chainsaw13 02-28-2013 08:56 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Oh crap. Just found this. Might need to get one for when I build a tack driver upper.

http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/images/clk750W.jpg

emopunker2004 03-01-2013 01:34 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Anyone need any PMAGS? I know a place you can get them for $25/each.

Digs 03-01-2013 04:15 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1801582)
Anyone need any PMAGS? I know a place you can get them for $25/each.

Ya, I need the case of them I ordered from Brownells on 12.26 for $11.95 each :r:lr

emopunker2004 03-01-2013 04:26 AM

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yeh but $25 is a steal considering

spectrrr 03-01-2013 09:27 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Complete CMMG 9mm lower, $400 http://grabagun.com/cmmg-lower-compl...w-6-pos-1.html

ChicagoWhiteSox 03-01-2013 10:44 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Want one of these now, prices are crazy right now though. I guess people are really willing to pay high prices for rifles.
http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.c...ategory_id=400

emopunker2004 03-02-2013 01:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1801724)
Want one of these now, prices are crazy right now though. I guess people are really willing to pay high prices for rifles.
http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.c...ategory_id=400

I absolutely HATE anything proprietary, one reason I'm a fan of 300BLK. .30cal projectile but standard AR15 parts except the barrel.

Brian D. 03-04-2013 08:48 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Bought up some "vintage" CAVIM 7.62x51 ammo this weekend. (2005 date of production.) Seller was an old friend, he sold it to me at more or less pre-hysteria pricing. Didn't make the buy just for the hell of it though, was actually something that's been on my shopping list for a spell now.

Maybe spectrrr can start getting me more of this stuff since the factory is in Venezuela. -(P

jluck 03-04-2013 08:55 PM

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:wo:wo I just ordered my 6.5 Grendel upper, ammo and mags!


'Here deery deery deery....:gn

spectrrr 03-04-2013 10:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian D. (Post 1803133)
Bought up some "vintage" CAVIM 7.62x51 ammo this weekend. (2005 date of production.) Seller was an old friend, he sold it to me at more or less pre-hysteria pricing. Didn't make the buy just for the hell of it though, was actually something that's been on my shopping list for a spell now.

Maybe spectrrr can start getting me more of this stuff since the factory is in Venezuela. -(P

you'd probably have more luck buying it here!! Not exactly a "free" country ;)

Gabe215 03-04-2013 10:08 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Traded in my Remington 1911 R1 for a Taurus 85, 38 special and cash tonight!

spectrrr 03-04-2013 10:37 PM

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Botach just tried to charge my card (they failed, cuz the card got stolen and shut down 2 days ago, grrr).... but there's not many items left on the order... could it really be so... could they really be shipping it! lol

emopunker2004 03-04-2013 10:40 PM

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:r

But, damn your CC got stolen? That sux. Or maybe Botach is trying to screw you...

spectrrr 03-04-2013 11:05 PM

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Yeah, banks fraud dept caught a bogus transaction being made on Saturday and locked it down. So now I'm stuck waiting a week for another. Gonna miss that card, the number had enough of a pattern to it that I had it memorized, never had to pull it out to use it :)

emopunker2004 03-04-2013 11:13 PM

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:r yeh i have mine memorized too.

spectrrr 03-04-2013 11:29 PM

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came in handy for some of the "buy it quick or lose it" sales in January :r

Chainsaw13 03-07-2013 02:29 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
What are your guys thoughts on Seekins Precision and LAR Grizzly parts? Was thinking a Seekins 223 lower and a LAR OPS-4 upper receiver for a start of a build. If I could only find the parts at halfway decent prices.

emopunker2004 03-07-2013 02:31 PM

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Seekins makes good stuff. That's all I got for ya though lol

Chainsaw13 03-07-2013 02:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1804577)
Seekins makes good stuff. That's all I got for ya though lol

That's what I was hoping to hear. I like the look of their lower for a bench gun.

emopunker2004 03-07-2013 02:47 PM

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All their stuff is good. They make some sexy quad rails too.

mahtofire14 03-07-2013 02:53 PM

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I'm looking at purchasing my first hand gun. I will mostly use it at the range and not primarily a conceal and carry. That being said, I have found three that I really like. The Glock 23, Springfield's XD, and the Sig P250. I love the way all three of these shoot. I'm leaning towards the Sig because it is a modular handgun and you can buy the conversion kit to change out the full size to the subcompact size when needed. Thought?

emopunker2004 03-07-2013 03:30 PM

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I'm a glock fanboy so nothing further need be said.

cobra03 03-07-2013 03:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1804595)
I'm a glock fanboy so nothing further need be said.

:tpd: I own a Glock 23 and personally I love it. Its good to shoot at the range but isnt to large to carry conceled if you need to.

mahtofire14 03-07-2013 03:44 PM

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The Glock was probably my favorite to shoot. The price point of the Sig and the functionality of it are selling me right now......:sh

emopunker2004 03-07-2013 03:49 PM

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Well from what I've seen the 250 is the black sheep of the sig line among sig fans

mahtofire14 03-07-2013 04:14 PM

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Really? I have seen or heard next to no poor reviews on the p250.

Boz 03-07-2013 08:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1804595)
I'm a glock fanboy so nothing further need be said.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobra03 (Post 1804598)
:tpd: I own a Glock 23 and personally I love it. Its good to shoot at the range but isnt to large to carry conceled if you need to.

<-----Also a fan of the 23 :tu

smitty81 03-07-2013 08:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boz (Post 1804722)
<-----Also a fan of the 23 :tu

I got a G17C, G20 and a G33. Love my Glocks. I was thinking of getting a G19 but I think I will just throw a barrel in my 33 for now.

emopunker2004 03-07-2013 09:01 PM

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The good thing about Glocks is that with a barrel and sometimes mag swap you can change calliber. 40SW --> 357 sig etc. Glocks are very simple and easy to work on.

smitty81 03-07-2013 09:06 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1804735)
The good thing about Glocks is that with a barrel and sometimes mag swap you can change calliber. 40SW --> 357 sig etc. Glocks are very simple and easy to work on.

Indeed. I can shoot the 40,9,357 and I'd have to double check but might even be able to shoot the 10 all out of one gun with the required changes of corse.:tu

emopunker2004 03-07-2013 09:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1804738)
Indeed. I can shoot the 40,9,357 and I'd have to double check but might even be able to shoot the 10 all out of one gun with the required changes of corse.:tu

9mm requires mag change and the 10mm can only be shot out of the 45 models with barrel and mag changes.

smitty81 03-07-2013 09:12 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1804739)
9mm requires mag change and the 10mm can only be shot out of the 45 models with barrel and mag changes.

I'd change the mag with each caliber anyhow. Wasn't sure on the 10mm though.

I'm thinking I might buy a 9mm barrel for my 33

emopunker2004 03-07-2013 09:12 PM

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the 357 and 40 use the same mags and follower

smitty81 03-07-2013 09:15 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1804742)
the 357 and 40 use the same mags and follower

Same follower too? Huh wasn't aware of that.

emopunker2004 03-07-2013 09:16 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Yeh. the 357 is just a 40 case necked down to take a 9mm bullet. since the bulk of the case is the same and the part that contacts the follower is the same, they have the same follower. Much like you can shoot 300BLK in a 300BLK AR with regular 5.56 mags.

Brian D. 03-08-2013 05:54 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I wish some of the other polymer handguns would come out in 10mm. Got a pair of Glock model 20s. They do the job for carry in bear/wild boar country but I seem to shoot the Springfield XD guns better. Not very much hands on with the Smith Wesson M&P's but I believe the same is true for me with those versus the Glocks.

I've owned a Colt Delta Elite but sold it after realizing I was not gonna use it for carry out in the wilds. Too dang pretty.

mahtofire14 03-08-2013 06:57 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
That's the same as the Sig p250. It can change out from full to compact, to sub compact. Also can change cal from 9 to 40 to 45 ACP. Won't do 10 though.

Digs 03-08-2013 07:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mahtofire14 (Post 1804585)
I'm looking at purchasing my first hand gun. I will mostly use it at the range and not primarily a conceal and carry. That being said, I have found three that I really like. The Glock 23, Springfield's XD, and the Sig P250. I love the way all three of these shoot. I'm leaning towards the Sig because it is a modular handgun and you can buy the conversion kit to change out the full size to the subcompact size when needed. Thought?

I do not like the Sig 250 its DA trigger pull is horrible, I have now played with 2 of them over the last 6 months were the owners complain of shooting chronically to the left. The last one I looked at last week had the rear sight drifted all the way over and still wasn’t shooting center..... Plus they only come with 1 mag! and last I checked the mags for them were like $39 ea(compared to $20-$25 for factory Glock mags) 4th Gen Glocks come with 3 mags.:tu

In my opinion the Sig 250 is meant to compete with the Tarus Millennium and pistols of that appeal.

There is no one pistol that can adapt to all scenarios, kind of like trying to use a hammer as a screw driver, paint brush or level, lol . Generally “Modular” do it all designs only attract first time buyers.

Like mentioned already my Glock’s are usually my go to gun, personally if its your first CCW handgun I would recommend you look at the G19 also right now still in love with my XD's. 45 although I am not a HUGE XD fan.

issues 03-08-2013 08:10 AM

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I'm in a similar boat as Pete, I have decided on 2 different pistols and need to pick one; both in 40 S&W and both fully ambidextrous (I'm a lefty).

First is the Walther PPQ known for their excellent ergos and possibly the best trigger of any polymer pistol. Comes with 2 mags with 12 round capacity and 3 interchangeable back straps.

The other is the FNH FNS. Good trigger, external safety, night sights standard, 3 14 round mags, 2 back straps and a lower bore axis than the PPQ.

The prices are almost identical (within 20 dollars). Any advice would be appreciated.

issues 03-08-2013 09:18 AM

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Nevermind, went with the PPQ 40. It was my first choice and they we selling fast!

Should have it in the next couple of weeks!!! :banger

Digs 03-08-2013 10:45 AM

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I collect vintage Walthers / I don't think anything they made in recent years deserves to wear the banner. The PPQ looks to much like a HiPoint :r

issues 03-08-2013 12:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digs (Post 1804919)
I collect vintage Walthers / I don't think anything they made in recent years deserves to wear the banner. The PPQ looks to much like a HiPoint :r

Ouch, harsh!

It is more comparable to a striker-fired H&K P30 than that firing brick.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pse00ee7fe.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps441c8da8.jpg

jluck 03-08-2013 11:22 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 1804576)
What are your guys thoughts on Seekins Precision and LAR Grizzly parts? Was thinking a Seekins 223 lower and a LAR OPS-4 upper receiver for a start of a build. If I could only find the parts at halfway decent prices.

LAR is no more...I love those OPS-4 ambi uppers too. You can dig deep in the pockets and go to gunbroker...

Chainsaw13 03-09-2013 04:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jluck (Post 1805219)
LAR is no more...I love those OPS-4 ambi uppers too. You can dig deep in the pockets and go to gunbroker...

Damn, not what i wanted to hear. I saw some things about Remington buying them out. I guess this will be my unicorn.

Chainsaw13 03-09-2013 05:04 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
So here's a question. If I don't have a bore sight system, what's the best method to sight in my AR? Start at 25yd, dial it in, then move on to 100yd?

bonjing 03-09-2013 11:29 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Just google 25 yard zero, it'll give you what you need to know. I think it like 1" below poa.



Edit, this isn't mine just found it on google images:

http://m3.photobucket.com/albumview/...rZero.jpg.html


After zeroing confirm at 100yards,

MurphysLaw 03-09-2013 11:52 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonjing (Post 1805335)
Just google 25 yard zero, it'll give you what you need to know. I think it like 1" below poa.



Edit, this isn't mine just found it on google images:

http://m3.photobucket.com/albumview/...rZero.jpg.html


After zeroing confirm at 100yards,

I've used this countless times, works like a charm!

ChicagoWhiteSox 03-09-2013 12:10 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian D. (Post 1804833)
I wish some of the other polymer handguns would come out in 10mm. Got a pair of Glock model 20s. They do the job for carry in bear/wild boar country but I seem to shoot the Springfield XD guns better. Not very much hands on with the Smith Wesson M&P's but I believe the same is true for me with those versus the Glocks.

I've owned a Colt Delta Elite but sold it after realizing I was not gonna use it for carry out in the wilds. Too dang pretty.


Have a Glock 20SF and will be getting a 29SF soon. Wilson Combat or Nighthawk will be my 1911 choice. Both make some really nice looking 10mm autos.

Chainsaw13 03-09-2013 01:02 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonjing (Post 1805335)
Just google 25 yard zero, it'll give you what you need to know. I think it like 1" below poa.



Edit, this isn't mine just found it on google images:

http://m3.photobucket.com/albumview/...rZero.jpg.html


After zeroing confirm at 100yards,

Thanks. Kinda had a feeling it was something like this after doing some you tubing of understanding MOA.

ChicagoWhiteSox 03-09-2013 09:02 PM

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Kimber has some good looking 10s too. May get two 1911's soon, one in 10 and one in 45. Those Kimber Gold Match IIs are nice!

http://www.1911.sk/page_image/produc...Match%20II.jpg


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