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Let's talk HW's. The HW division is for big guys who can't/won't cut 205. I believe the UFC goes up to 265. There are a number of fighters who are 240 and under. Only a few at 260+, one being Shane Carwin. If any of these other HW's feel they do not possess the ability to fight a bigger guy then they need to start dropping weight. Because Carwin is on his way up and others well be flooding in after TUF 10. Let's talk weight. I can personally tell you that weight does help though it isn't that advantageous over skill and ability. Each week I wrestle guys any where from 40lbs heavier to 40lbs lighter and none of them are easy to keep down. Lesnar is a top notch wrestler who is an ace in the game of takedowns and control. That is skill and not just weight holding him down. And if Mir can not deal with an extra 20lbs on a no-skilled chump then he pretty much sucks himself. Weight is nice to have over someone, but if you don't bring anything else to the table your toast. And "Some skill, some lying there.". Did you watch the fight? In the 1st round he pretty much had Mir in a crucifix with only using one arm. Lesnar's arms are long enough and strong enough to pull something like that off. And it took training and knowledge to pull off such a move. Then the subtle things like getting your legs into position to control the ground, passing the guard, and subs. Not understanging this leaving you open for legs locks or being easily swept by your opponent. I thought that taking your opponent down and beating the snot out of them was actually called ground-n-pound. Because this is what Lesnar employed. He easily took Mir down, controlled the top in side mount, gained position by showing patience, and then beat the tar out him. Lastly, at the beginning of the match Mir tried a toss, stuffed, then transitioned to a knee bar, and was stuffed again. I'm beside myself as to how anyone could watch this and say that Lesnar showed no skill. He can't take a punch either! :rolleyes: I never watched this guy in WWE, though I wanted to see him do well in the UFC. But now, to spite everyone else and piss them off I'm an official Brock nut hugger. He's my new BBF. :O (I'm not sure what a BBF is but my neice says is means everything.) |
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I respect the skill that Brock used to beat Mir, he was better, he won. Mir is a BJJ black belt, and even he knew he made some mistakes. Lesnar is a strong and skilled wrestler...and he can hit. There have been many champions in the UFC with those credentials.
What I do not respect is continuing to go after him (Mir) verbally after the fight, I don't respect the way he conducted himself in the interview with Joe. If this does not bother you, that's fine with me, but is shows incredibly poor sportsmanship, and a complete lack of respect for his opponent, the organization and the fans (or at least some of them). Speaking for myself I don't hate Brock, I don't think he is the downfall of UFC...he just happens to be a fighter I don't care for. There are enough other guys who are drawing lots of people to the UFC who I do like. If Brock does it for you, good for you. |
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i think mir's black belt in bjj is suspect. Supposedly he received it after 5 years of training? It takes 10-15 years to get a black belt from a respectable teacher. When Mir fought Nog he was avoiding the ground most of the time.
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Best Buddy Forever.
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If anybody hates him, they are feeding right out of his and Dana's hands. That's exactly the way they want you to feel. :r More people will buy the ppv's just to root against him. Every sport needs a good villain. The most "classless", if you want to label somebody that, person in UFC history is Dana White. Read his interviews and he calls out other organizations and labels them losers all the time using the F bomb liberally. It gets him noticed and that's what it is all about. And don't even talk about class and Rampage. :rolleyes: First, the running from the cops thing and now this: http://www.break.com/cage-potato/ram...-reporter.html http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...son/index.html Traina: Has he apologized since then? Nichols: No, not at all. He was very, very pleased with himself. |
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he was criticising cro crop too, when he heard a rumor that he signed a deal with DREAM. Then they turn around and sign a 3 fight deal with him. He is very unprofessional and talks too much garbage.
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Tito Ortiz and Dana White mend their relationship.
“UFC is not out of the picture…. There’s a possibility — I don’t know. I had a conversation with Dana last week, me and him spoke … we were really, really good friends at a point, best friends at a point, and everything got mucked up because of the fight game…. I wanted to be a man and squash things between me and him and wish him luck in his journeys and he did the same to me. So we kind of amended and squashed things, which is great. Dana showed the kind of person he is by apologizing to me and vice versa…. I’m very thankful for Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta from the UFC and I’m glad that me and Dana (White) kind of got to brush each other off. We may not still like each other or whatever but we came to amends — which is awesome. I gotta thank Strikeforce for giving me an opportunity and I want to thank Affliction for giving me an opportunity.” I have a feeling this was done to get Tito back into the UFC and possibly be the main event opponent for Rich Franklin at 103. Right now Rich doesn't have an opponent for the main event. |
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UFC 100 took place July 11 at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas. In the night's pay-per-view main event, UFC heavyweight champ Brock Lesnar ground and pounded his way to a second-round TKO victory over interim title-holder Frank Mir. Lesnar wasn't issued a suspension, but Mir is sidelined until Sept. 10 for precautionary reasons. The full list of suspensions includes: Frank Mir: Suspended until Sept. 10 with no contact until Aug. 26 for precautionary reasons Georges St. Pierre: Must have groin injury cleared by an orthopedic doctor. Otherwise, suspended until Jan. 8. Even if cleared, suspended until Aug. 11 with no contact until Aug. 2 for precautionary reasons. Thiago Alves: Suspended until Aug. 11 with no contact until Aug. 2 for precautionary reasons Michael Bisping: Suspended until Sept. 10 with no contact until Aug. 26 for precautionary reasons Yoshihiro Akiyama: Must have left orbital fractured cleared by an ophthalmologist. Otherwise, suspended until Jan. 8. Even if cleared, suspended until Sept. 10 with no contact until Aug. 26 for precautionary reasons Stephan Bonnar: Suspended until Aug. 11 with no contact until Aug. 2 for precautionary reasons Mac Danzig: Suspended until Sept. 10 with no contact until Aug. 26 due to a head laceration Jim Miller: Must have right shoulder and clavicle X-rayed and cleared by a doctor. Otherwise, suspended until Jan. 8 Jake O'Brien: Suspended until Aug. 11 with no contact until Aug. 2 for precautionary reasons T.J. Grant: Suspended until Aug. 2 with no contact until July 26 for precautionary reasons C.B. Dollaway: Suspended until Aug. 11 with no contact until Aug. 2 for precautionary reasons Matt Grice: Suspended until Sept. 10 with no contact until Aug. 26 for precautionary reasons Shannon Gugerty: Must have lower back pain cleared by a doctor. Otherwise, suspended until Jan. 8 UFC 100, which took place at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, had a total disclosed payroll of $1,790,000. The payroll figure does not include a $400,000 that was awarded for "fight night" bonuses that were handed out after the event. Each award winner received a record $100,000. UFC 100, the UFC's heavily promoted and long-awaited milestone event, drew a soldout crowd estimated at 11,000 and assuming the preliminary figures hold up the second-largest gate in UFC history with $5.1 million in ticket sales. The full payouts for the event included: Jon Fitch: $90,000 (includes $45,000 win bonus) def. Paulo Thiago: $8,000 Brock Lesnar: $400,000 (no win bonus) def. Frank Mir: $45,000 Georges St-Pierre: $400,000 ($200,000 win bonus) def. Thiago Alves: $60,000 Dan Henderson: $250,00 ($150,000 win bonus) def. Michael Bisping: $150,000 Yoshihiro Akiyama: $60,000 ($20,000 win bonus) def. Alan Belcher: $19,000 Mark Coleman: $100,000 ($50,000 win bonus) def. Stephan Bonnar: $25,000 Jim Miller: $22,000 ($11,000 win bonus) def. Mac Danzig: $20,000 Jon Jones: $18,000 ($9000 win bonus) def. Jake O'Brien: $13,000 Dong Hyun Kim: $58,000 ($29,000 win bonus) def. T.J. Grant: $5,000 Tom Lawlor: $16,000 ($8,000 win bonus) def. C.B. Dollway: $14,000 Shannon Gugerty: $10,000 ($5,000 win bonus) def. Matt Grice: $7,000 The UFC awarded $100,000 each to Akiyama and Belcher (Fight of the Night), Henderson (KO of the Night, duh!) and Lawlor (Submission of the Night). Keith Kizer, Executive Director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, on Friday released post-fight drug test results for UFC 100, which took place on July 11 at the Mandalay Bay Events Center. Thirteen athletes were tested for performance enhancing substances and drugs of abuse: Brock Lesnar, Frank Mir, Georges St. Pierre, Thiago Alves, Dan Henderson, Yoshihiro Akiyama, Jon Fitch, Jon Jones, Mark Coleman, Jim Miller, Dong Hyun Kim, Tom Lawlor, and Shannon Gugerty. All athletes tested negative. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A UFC 103 welterweight bout between veterans Martin Kampmann (15-2 MMA, 6-1 UFC) and Mike Swick (14-2 MMA, 9-1 UFC) will, in fact, determine a No. 1 contender to challenge for UFC welterweight champion Georges St-Pierre's championship belt. |
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DREAM 10 is live at 3:00 a.m, set your tivo if you have HD net. It replays again on friday at 10:00 p.m and saturday at 4:00 p.m. keep an eye on welterweight galvo he is a bjj phenomenon and trains with anderson silva and he is only 23 years old.
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All this Dana White talk makes me think of this guy named Jon C.:hm
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With the date now official for the second round of DREAM's open-weight "Super Hulk" tournament, the organization has now made the matchups official. As was previously rumored, Hong Man Choi (2-2) meets Ikuhisa Minowa (42-30-8), while Gegard Mousasi (25-2-1) faces Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou (6-4) at DREAM.11 on Oct. 6 in Kanagawa, Japan. DREAM officials made the matchups official during Monday's DREAM.10 broadcast on HDNet. The "Techno Goliath" earned his way to the semifinals with a 77-second shellacking of former baseball star Jose Canseco at May's DREAM.9. The 7-foot-2 super-heavyweight will enjoy a significant size advantage over "Minowaman," though that didn't matter much in "The Punk's" first-round matchup. Minowa needed just 75 seconds to submit the massive Bob Sapp in his first-round contest. The 13-year-veteran has made a career of taking on all comers, and the bout with Choi, who is nearly twice Minowa's weight, will certainly maintain the "freak show" feel made famous in Japan. Mousasi, who will first face Renato "Babalu" Sobral at the Aug. 1 event "Affliction: Trilogy," made his way to the "Super Hulk" semifinals with a 79-second submission win over Mark Hunt. Mousasi is currently on an impressive 12-fight win streak. Sokoudjou broke out of a recent slump and earned a first-round win over kickboxer Jan Nortje in May. The explosive win ended in controversial fashion when Sokoudjou delivered a few hotly contested blows that some deemed unnecessary. Sokoudjou later apologized for the blows. DREAM.11 will also feature the semifinals and finals of DREAM's current featherweight grand prix. |
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I just finished watching the fights, jason high got brutally knocked out in the welterweight finals. They also announced shinya aoki vs hansen for the lightweight championship and souza vs jason miller rematch will probably happen as well.
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Rickson Gracie says Brock Lesnar has many holes in his game and he could submit Lesnar easier than Fedor.
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So much for Affliction being a major player. :r Affliction scraps 'Trilogy' card altogether By Josh Gross, SI.com In a matter of days Affliction Entertainment's "Trilogy" event when from promising the top heavyweight fight in mixed martial arts to being cancelled outright, multiple sources confirmed to SI.com Friday morning. Affliction Entertainment vice president began making calls with the news Friday morning to fighters scheduled to appear on the Aug. 1 card, SI.com has learned. The abrupt change comes in the wake of 31-year-old Josh Barnett testing positive for banned substances following a California State Athletic Commission pre-fight drug test. |
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What a strange day in MMA. It now appears that Affliction and the UFC have come to terms with each other to let Affliction once again promote and sponsor UFC fighters. It is currently unknown as to what will happen with the contracts of the fighters on Affliction and if they were a part of negotiations. Dana White also posted on his Twitter that Tito Ortiz is back in the UFC as well.....
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Even wikipedia is saying affliction is defunct as of today. I would like to see Fedor in DREAM for a heavyweight tournament they will likely have soon. But Sengoku has Antonio Silva who experts say has the best chance to beat Fedor. They also have the guy that defeated Fedor in combat sambo last year making his mma a debut august 2nd and he expressed that he wants to face Fedor in mma. But than again Rickson gracie might come out of retirement and choke him out.
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FIGHTERS REELING AS AFFLICTION CLOSES MMA SHOP
Friday, July 24, 2009 - by Steven Marrocco - MMAWeekly.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...9222&zoneid=13 Word from Afflictions rank-and-file fighters this morning was that no one was getting paid. A little over a week out from an expected payday at Affliction Trilogy, most are still floored over the events sudden cancellation early Friday. Theres no words that can even describe it, said Jay Hieron, who was scheduled to face Paul Daley on the events undercard. Its still fresh for me. Ive already paid all my trainers. I trained my ass off for this fight. Affliction vice president Tom Atencio on Friday said the loss of co-main event fighter Josh Barnett proved an insurmountable hurdle for the young promotion to overcome, and that pulling the plug was the only option. Until Thursday night, the MMA world was holding its breath over who would replace Barnett to face Fedor Emelianenko. The front runner, middleweight Vitor Belfort, had drawn mixed reviews from both fans and media, mainly because the match-up would deprive them of a main card showdown with Sengoku champ Jorge Santiago. Now, there will be no match-ups to look forward to. According to a UFC official, Affliction is ceasing its fight operations to become an official UFC sponsor. For Hieron, its the second time hes had a major promotion roll up its tent and leave him in the lurch. I think Ive been through everything thats bad in this sport, he said. I dont know what I havent been through yet. I know everything happens for a reason I hope its a good reason. Standard fight contracts rarely allow for compensation in light of a cancelled event. For all but the top-drawing fighters, a cancelled show means months of hard work out the door. The only recourse, it seems, is to look for another fight. To tell you the truth, I dont know whats going to happen, said Paul Buentello, who was due to fight Gilbert Yvel on the main card. It took a lot of wind out of my sails. Multiple sources have indicated to MMAWeekly.com that several managers are attempting to place their fighters on two upcoming cards: Carano vs. Cyborg, due for Aug. 15 at the HP Pavilion in San Jose, Calif., and M-1 Globals Breakthrough, due for Aug. 28 at the Los Angeles Convention Center. Afflictions deal with the UFC could mean work for some, but its unknown who will fold into the industry leading promotion and who will be a free agent. Most Affliction fighters were tied to non-exclusive three-fight deals, although many chose not to take fights in other promotions. Strikeforce is entertaining either Jay Hieron or his originally scheduled opponent, Paul Daley, as a new opponent for Nick Diaz on Aug. 15. Diazs original opponent, Joe Riggs, withdrew from the fight on Friday morning. Daley is game. I have trained so damned hard for this fight, probably the hardest ever and I am in great shape and now this happens. I still want a fight if they need someone to replace Riggs against Nick Diaz give me a call. It has also been tossed around that Affliction fighters Ben Rothwell or Gilbert Yvel are being considered to replace Strikeforce heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem, who had to withdraw from his title defense against Fabricio Werdum. A lot of fighters could still be out of work. One fighter places the blame squarely on Barnett. Bottom line is, Josh Barnett should pay everybody, said Rothwell, who had drawn Chase Gormley for his undercard fight. He (expletive) up, bad. But Rothwell and Buentello, both longtime veterans of the sport, agree that Affliction was not to blame for the cancellation. They didnt do it, said Rothwell. They didnt make (Barnett) do the drug test. Buentello said he would continue training until next week and decide what to do from there. Right now, Im eating a big old helping of biscuits and gravy, he said. Im gonna be myself today and just relax. Take the day off. Others werent so sure of their next step. I dont just feel bad for myself, I feel bad for all the other fighters who arent going to make money, said Rothwell. I feel bad for Affliction. I feel for the fans. Everybody suffers. |
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Crazy week in MMA. This my be the final chance the UFC has to try and land Fedor. Dana White said if they get Fedor that he'll get the title shot for his 1st fight, hard to argue, though I'd like to see him fight Randy one way or another. Sign him this week and everyone can start preparing for Brock vs Fedor.
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When (if) Clint Eastwood dies, Fedor will be the raddest man walking.
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Babalu/Mousasi Title at Strikeforce Confirmed
The first two pieces of the scrambled puzzle left by Affliction's recent demise have fallen into place as Strikeforce light heavyweight champion Renato "Babalu" Sobral (35-8) will defend his title against Gegard Mousasi (25-2-1) on Aug. 15. Sobral and Mousasi, who were originally scheduled to meet at the now-canceled "Affliction: Trilogy," will instead step into the cage at the HP Pavilion in San Jose, Calif., on the main card of "Strikeforce: Carano vs. Cyborg," which airs live on Showtime. Mousasi will compete on the card with a new Strikeforce contract, Afromowitz said, and not as a loaned commodity from M-1. Mousasi is currently riding a 12-fight win streak, including a successful run to DREAM's middleweight crown in 2008, as well as a current semifinalist in DREAM's open-weight "Super Hulk" tournament. The new contract is not likely to affect Mousasi's position in DREAM's tournament, as the Japanese-based organization and Strikeforce have a history of working together to share talent. Sobral will take a five-fight win streak into the contest, and the Brazilian has won 15 of his past 17 contests. "Babalu" earned Strikeforce's 205-pound belt with a TKO win over Bobby Southworth in November 2008. While previously announced competitors Fabricio Werdum and Nick Diaz are still without opponents following the withdrawal of Alistair Overeem and Joe Riggs due to various ailments, Afromowitz said he was unable to make any other announcements at this time. http://mmajunkie.com/news/15648/rena...-on-aug-15.mma Frank Mir May Face Cheick Kongo At UFC 107 A heavyweight battle between Cheick Kongo and two-time former UFC champion Frank Mir may take place at UFC 107 in Memphis, Tennessee. Kongo (14-5-1) dropped a convincing unanimous decision to Cain Velasquez at UFC 99 in his last outing. Mir last fought Brock Lesnar at UFC 100 a couple weeks back. Although Mir fought valiantly, he was simply overpowered by the massive undisputed heavyweight champion. Mirs camp says they have not yet been approached about the scrap, however they are definitely interested in taking the fight. http://www.fightline.com/news/mma/20...ir/index.shtml |
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Speaking of Carano...How do you guys feel about Women's MMA? Personally I think it's exactly like the WNBA: glad you're having fun, but I'm just not interested. Although I do like MMA quite a bit (and hate basketball) so I do still find myself watching if it's on...
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Satoko Shinashi is another awesome fighter. Check this out. She is the real deal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf9W9luyxHw
Not only is Gina Carano very good looking, she kicks arse! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ukc3W...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku4xU...eature=related |
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Fertitta Still pursuing Fedor
"We want Fedor" . . . Most MMA organizations would utter these words regarding WAMMA heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko, however they're much more powerful when spoken by UFC co-owner Lorenzo Fertitta. "We want Fedor", Fertitta said of the Russian during a recent Q & A session for Fighter's Only Magazine. The following day, UFC president Dana White parlayed that sentiment by stating, "Eventually, Fedor's going to be here. I want Fedor. I want him to come to the UFC... We'll end up getting that deal done, and then we'll do Brock vs. Fedor, and it'll be a huge fight." http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_r...pursuing-fedor |
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The ONLY woman who I've ever followed in MMA/Thai was Lucia Rjiker. She fought like a friggen' man! She had so much balls, she even fought a former MALE champion in Thai fight. Yea, she was knocked out, but even to be game enough is amazing. 37-0, 25 KO. 4 World Titles.
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Fedor Emelianenko, UFC finalizing deal A long-awaited agreement between the Ultimate Fighting Championship and the man considered the world's best mixed martial arts fighter, Fedor Emelianenko, is expected to be announced by UFC President Dana White on Friday, a source with information about the negotiations told The Times today. The source, who asked not to be identified because he's not authorized to speak publicly about the dealings, called negotiations between the UFC and Fedor "very civil" just days after Fedor's scheduled Affliction Trilogy fight Saturday against Josh Barnett was canceled. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- M-1 Global says Fedor, UFC not close to a deal M-1 Global says Fedor, UFC not close to a deal Story Highlights The news contradicts a recent report by the Los Angeles Times Dana White was rumored to be close to signing Fedor to UFC By Josh Gross, SI.com http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...nenko.Octagon/ Denying a published report Tuesday by the Los Angeles Times, M-1 Global officials told SI.com that Fedor Emelianenko and the Ultimate Fighting Championship are not close to finalizing a deal that would bring mixed martial arts' top heavyweight in the Octagon. "I can give you a guarantee it's not accurate," said Apy Echteld of M-1 Global, a St. Petersburg, Russia-based promotion and management company of which Emelianenko is an equity stakeholder. According to the Times' report -- which referenced an unnamed source unaffiliated with the UFC and "with information about the negotiations" -- UFC president Dana White was set to announce the signing of Emelianenko on Friday. The source also said negotiations between the top MMA promoter and the Russian champion's camp were "very civil," and that both groups were discussing details on the pending public announcement. Echteld declined to comment on negotiations between M-1 Global and the UFC, which are rumored to be taking place Tuesday in Los Angeles. He pointed to a press conference Wednesday in Anaheim, Calif., for "important" news on Emelianenko's fate. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.fiveknuckles.com/mma-news...elianenko.html A source close to Fedor Emelianenko's camp has exclusively informed FiveKnuckles.com, that rumors stating UFC President Dana White will announce the signing of Emelianenko at a press conference scheduled for this Friday are accurate. The information was first broken by the LA Times. Our source tells us that a fight between Emelianenko and Brock Lesnar is in preliminary discussions for UFC 103, which is set for Dallas, TX on Sept. 19 and would be for Lesnar's UFC heavyweight title. |
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nice post NCradioman, I have only watched part one so far but I guess this was made before they folded?
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Vitor Belfort is going to fight a Savati kickboxer in Betetti Combat promotion in Brazil. It is the first mma promotion to be brodcast live on network TV in Brazil. Lil Nog is on the card fighting the self proclaimed Brazilian killer Alex Stiebling. Ricardo Arona is also on the card making his return to mma after 2 and a half years. Paul Filho and Pedro Rizzo is on the card as well. It takes place Sep 12th.
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Anderson Silva has signed to box Roy Jones Jr.
UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson The Spider Silva (24-4) has made it clear that he plans on retiring from the UFC once his contract expires. As of now, Anderson has four fights with the Ultimate Fighting Championships, the most recent on August 8th in Philadelphia against contender Forrest Griffin. However, according to Anderson himself in a recent conversation with Fighters Only Magazine, he has no intentions of retiring from hand-to-hand combat altogether once hes through in the Ocatagon. Its been talked about for close to a year now and Silva has recently confirmed that there is no question about it; hes going to box Roy Jones Jr. As a matter of fact, contracts have been inked and its only a matter of time from here. It is undoubted that I will face Roy Jones, revealed Silva. We have talked too much, have signed some contracts and we want to make it the sooner the better. Its not for money or spotlight, its for my desire. I watch Roy Jones since he competed as an amateur and in the Olympic Games. Im looking forward to this fight to put in the ring everything I know, to show my students in the future that I understand what I may say over this or that and dont seem a pirate parrot. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ M-1: No Fedor in UFC Without Co-Promoting ANAHEIM, Calif. -- Fedor Emelianenko, the top-ranked heavyweight in the world, will not fight in the UFC unless Dana White and company agree to co-promote with Emelianenkos partners at M-1 Global. M-1 Global CEO Vadim Finkelstein made that clear Wednesday at a news conference in Anaheim, Calif. Finkelstein confirmed that M-1 Global had negotiated with UFC officials as recently as Tuesday. We are open, Finkelstein said. We do want to work with the UFC. We do want to work with other promotions. Finkelstein said the UFC made a new offer to Emelianenko, and M-1 Global made a counteroffer. However, Finkelstein said Emeliananko would not proceed without a co-promotional effort between M-1 and the UFC where they shared expenses and profits. Finkelstein also communicated that the UFC's representation in the media of his negotiations with the organization has not been accurate. He said Emelianenko has been made completely aware of any deals, past and present, that have been offered. "I have 100 percent faith in Vadim and M-1 Global," Emelianenko said. M-1 Global also pressured the UFC by saying they are in talks with other shows, including Strikeforce. We're not going to wait, Finkelstein said. We have to move forward. It might be that very soon we will be able to announce a deal with another promotion. I'm going to tell you that we're only going to work under co-promotion conditions. Interesting. Dana would be an idiot not to co-promote with M-1. I can see M-1 and Strikeforce becoming a major, major player. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aleksander Emelianenko Blames Fedor's Manager By Raj Giri | July 28, 2009 FightLine.com Staff Aleksander Emelianenko Blames Fedor's Manager For Fedor Not Being In The UFCAleksander Emelianenko, brother of Fedor Emelianenko, feels that Fedor's manager, Vadim Finkelstein, is the reason why the UFC and his brother can't come to terms on a deal. Aleksander believes that Finkelstein is only interested in pushing his own business projects through his brother's fights. "You can deal with UFC, I know that they have flexible contract system," Aleksander Emelianenko told Sports.ru. "All these talks about 'strict' contract terms with signing with UFC, come ONLY from Vadim Finkelstein, who wants to push his owns business projects through Fedor's fights" Fedor appeared to be headed to the UFC in June of 2007, however negotations failed after Finkelstein demanded that the UFC work with his Russian M-1 Global promotion and permit Emelianenko to compete in combat sambo tournaments. The UFC has since stated that they may allow Fedor to continue to compete in sambo to sign him. However, Finkelchtein still wants Fedor's fights to be co-promotional efforts with M-1 Global, a term virtually guaranteed to not be accepted by the UFC. This is the moment of truth that the UFC has talked about," Finkelchtein told Mixfight.ru over the weekend. "We want to talk to the UFC about having Fedor compete against some of their fighters, but only within the framework of co-promotional efforts with M-1 Global. |
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The offer being reported that the UFC is giving to Fedor will be the largest ever done. They will make Fedor and the M-1 morons very rich. 30 million plus PPV cuts and free M-1 advertising and Fedor can go back to Russia and play Sambo. Fedor would be an idiot if he doesn't cut the cord to this guys.
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I think fedors a great fighter....he has proven it time and time again, but i just see ufc as a different animal, even tho he's already beaten like 5 former ufc hw champs, i don't know maybe it's just a feeling i have
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Fedor is part owner of M-1 which is why he wants copromotion. 5 million is a joke compared to the 12 plus million he would get from a copromoted fight. Every mma orginization copromotes except the UFC because their trying to monopolize the sport. There are better matchups out there for Fedor to take anyway. The UFC heavyweight division is still a joke. In my opinion Brock is paper champ that brings more money to Zuffa. and why does it have to be a 6 fight contract?
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The UFC is offering much more than 5 million. And as far I as know Fedor doesn't own any part of M-1, his manager does. Vadim Finkelstein takes care of the negotiations and Fedor states that he trusts him with what ever decisions he makes.
M-1 brings very little to the table for co-promotion. They could possibly help the UFC into the Russian and Asian markets. There are 1 or 2 legit fights for Fedor and then he'll be back to the circus. He can go to Dream and fight Barnett as they do not care about roids. |
Re: Official MMA Thread
yeah there offering 30 million total but if Fedor wins his first fight, he is worth more than 5 million a fight. and yes Fedor is a shareholder in M-1. Outside of America Fedor is hugely popular while Brock is relatively unknown. M-1 promotes fights all over the world.
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Re: Official MMA Thread
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In conclusion, Fedor isn't worth more than $5 million a fight, he's not worth close to five million simply because he doesn't have the mainstream draw at this point. The UFC will go on without Fedor and will continue to flourish while Fedor and his insane management go and fight the likes of Brett Rogers. The risk to sign to the UFC is just too much to Fedor. Him and Vlad will go on kidding themselves thinking Fedor deserves to be number one, when in reality, they're ducking the competition that lies in the UFC. If he's so bad, prove it. If not, I could care less about him or any of his future fights as do the rest of the majority of casual MMA fans. The only worthwhile opponents out there that aren't in the UFC I can see are Overeem and Barnett. Hey, maybe we'll get Fedor vs. Jose Canseco on NYE this year! |
Re: Official MMA Thread
Antonio Silva and the guy that beat fedor in combat sambo, and roger gracie are more opponents for him. Who does the UFC have to give him a serious competition?
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