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Starscream 07-28-2010 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mahtofire (Post 932665)
that's cuz griffey never got caught with roids....MLB loves to pump the roid ragers in the media.....

As much as the media jumps all over the "roiders", you would think they would have put a special emphasis on Griffey's chase to 600. It went almost unnoticed. I guess that's what a legend gets for not playing for a big market team.

3SmokesaRound 07-28-2010 11:25 PM

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Go Giants!

kelmac07 07-29-2010 07:02 AM

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Mets drop another game in extra innings! :td :td

BigAsh 07-29-2010 11:31 AM

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BREAKING NEWS
Multiple media outlets are reporting that Astros RHP Roy Oswalt will approve a trade to the Phillies.

Nice!! :tu

VirtualSmitty 07-29-2010 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAsh (Post 933311)
BREAKING NEWS
Multiple media outlets are reporting that Astros RHP Roy Oswalt will approve a trade to the Phillies.

Nice!! :tu

Meh, they shoulda just kept Lee. He's better :2

The Poet 07-29-2010 03:18 PM

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O's have hired Buck Showalter to manage their team to another gawd-awful season.

BigAsh 07-29-2010 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty (Post 933499)
Meh, they shoulda just kept Lee. He's better :2

No argument there...But they didn't....Oswalt give them a pretty nice top 3...They're swingin' the bats pretty good now too....

kelmac07 07-29-2010 08:03 PM

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Here's to hoping the Braves CAVE IN!! Otherwise, my Mets will have no chance to make the playoffs. :td

VirtualSmitty 07-30-2010 08:42 PM

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Looks like Austin Kearns and Lance Berkman will both be in pinstripes soon.

kelmac07 07-31-2010 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty (Post 935406)
Looks like Austin Kearns and Lance Berkman will both be in pinstripes soon.

Done...and Kerry Wood. :confused: :confused: What is Wood gonna do for them? Be King of the DL? :r :r

3SmokesaRound 07-31-2010 07:46 PM

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Wish the Giants would have brought in Downs, but at least they got lefty bullpen help. I'm almost happy they didn't bring in another bat, because their chemistry hasn't been better all season and they are as deep as any team in the majors. Someone new is winning almost every game for them, and their pitching is still solid. Go Giants!!

kelmac07 07-31-2010 07:51 PM

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And the Mets get....

NOBODY!!! :td :td

Let's see if this seals Minayas fate...and job!!!

Superbad 07-31-2010 07:57 PM

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You guys might be the right audience for this question. Why does MLB not have a standard field size? It seems advantageous to play for a team who has a shorter distance to the back wall. Over time you would get more home runs.

3SmokesaRound 07-31-2010 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 936218)
And the Mets get....

NOBODY!!! :td :td

Let's see if this seals Minayas fate...and job!!!

Yeah, he was stuck between a rock and a hard place. Too far out to justify a move and then not make the playoffs. There's always next year Mac :tu

kelmac07 07-31-2010 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Superbad (Post 936223)
You guys might be the right audience for this question. Why does MLB not have a standard field size? It seems advantageous to play for a team who has a shorter distance to the back wall. Over time you would get more home runs.

Bobby...GREAT question. However, I have no answer. Might wanna ask a Yankees fan...318 down the right field line. Citifield is HUGE and we still can't keep opposing batters from taking us deep (but we can't seem to hit it out). :td

Superbad 07-31-2010 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 936225)
Bobby...GREAT question. However, I have no answer. Might wanna ask a Yankees fan...318 down the right field line. Citifield is HUGE and we still can't keep opposing batters from taking us deep (but we can't seem to hit it our). :td

Exactly. Btw my wife was a mets fan growing up. She is a big rays fan now that we have a home team.

3SmokesaRound 07-31-2010 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 936225)
Bobby...GREAT question. However, I have no answer. Might wanna ask a Yankees fan...318 down the right field line. Citifield is HUGE and we still can't keep opposing batters from taking us deep (but we can't seem to hit it our). :td

AT&T is one of the toughest places to hit HR's, especially to right center and RF too. If Bonds played in the Evil Empire stadium he would have hit 1000 HR's.

I would agree that it would make sense to have regulational dimensions of a ballpark, but that is also what kind of makes different ballparks unique. However, one could also bring up the arguement that different elevations, wind patterns, temperature etc. all factor into how far a ball travels. I don't see it ever happening.

Superbad 07-31-2010 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Superbad (Post 936227)
Exactly. Btw my wife was a mets fan growing up. She is a big rays fan now that we have a home team.

She wanted to add that she hates the Yankees!

kelmac07 07-31-2010 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Superbad (Post 936230)
She wanted to add that she hates the Yankees!

I like her already Bobby!! :D

VirtualSmitty 07-31-2010 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Superbad (Post 936227)
Exactly. Btw my wife was a mets fan growing up. She is a big rays fan now that we have a home team.

The Rays have fans? Jeez, judging by the last two games it looked like most of the crowd were Yanks fans :D

kelmac07 07-31-2010 08:46 PM

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Oh...and when will Arod hit #600????








WHO CARES!!!! :r :r :r :r

Superbad 07-31-2010 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty (Post 936257)
The Rays have fans? Jeez, judging by the last two games it looked like most of the crowd were Yanks fans :D

Too many transplants down here in FL. They never give up their original home teams. We had season tickets to the Tampa Bay Lightning for 11years. Everytime the Red Wings came to town, more red in the stands than anything. You would have sworn it was a game in Detroit. I was born in Detroit but I wore my lightning stuff, and rooted for the lightning.

MedicCook 07-31-2010 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 936268)
Oh...and when will Arod hit #600????








WHO CARES!!!! :r :r :r :r

Who's this A-Rod you speak of?

VirtualSmitty 08-01-2010 09:36 AM

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So with the non waiver trade deadline over and the flurry of moves that occurred the last few days, who is everyones picks for winners and losers? My thoughts:

Biggest Winners

The Rangers. I still can't believe how active they have been. Player gets hurt, get another one. Lee, Cantu, Guzman, and Molina? They making a serious push.

The Yankees. Not much to say here. Best team in baseball got better with Berkman as the new DH, Wood taking Parks spot (anyone would be an upgrade over him), and Kearns off the bench.

The Dodgers. They certainly got a bit better. Rotation help with Lilly, bullpen help with Dotel, bench help with Podsednik, and a pretty serviceable second baseman in Theriot.

Biggest Losers

The Giants. So much pitching, one of the few teams that could have moved a big league starter and a few prospects without any ill effects for a big bat like Adam Dunn and they failed to do so. San Diego got a little better, the Dodgers got quite a bit better, the Giants did nothing but add two middle relievers. Because pitching is such a problem there.

The White Sox. Only because GM Ken Williams was so vocal and so confident he was gonna land that big bat they needed so badly. First we heard that he was confident he was going to have either Prince Fielder or Adam Dunn for sure. Neither of those worked out. Then a last minute deal for Lance Berkman who canned it because he didn't want to play there. The end result? Williams did nothing.

The Rays. They have an awesome team team. They play good baseball, and they have to because they have some big name free agents who they probably aren't going to resign. Odds are next year they aren't going to be as good. So this is their year to make that push. Ownership talked about how willing they were to increase payroll temporarily to get that extra bat they needed in that lineup. And they did make a move. They picked up struggling Dbacks former closer Chad Qualls who has been nothing short of awful this season. Not what I expected.

So have at it. Who did you think made out big and who got burned?

Starscream 08-04-2010 01:57 PM

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A-Rod hits 600...


:td

The Poet 08-04-2010 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 941103)
A-Rod hits 600...


:td

OK, I understand you don't like the guy . . . hell, I don't like him much either . . . but is that really the proper response? Give the man some props for being the youngest to hit 600, at least for one day anyway.


Just my :2 , and worth every penny.

kelmac07 08-04-2010 02:17 PM

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Way to go A-Fraud!!! :D

Starscream 08-04-2010 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 941121)
OK, I understand you don't like the guy . . . hell, I don't like him much either . . . but is that really the proper response? Give the man some props for being the youngest to hit 600, at least for one day anyway.


Just my :2 , and worth every penny.

Does it really count if 300+ (I just threw a number out at random) of them were with steroids?

The Poet 08-04-2010 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 941125)
Way to go A-Fraud!!! :D

I just read an interesting column by Jeff Passan on Yahoo Sports re this matter, and it appears that he himself does not even know where to stand on this issue. For instance, he says nobody will blink when A-Rod hits 610 to surpass Sammy Sosa (who not only juiced, but corked to boot), but may react differently when #631 sails him past Junior. Then he contrasts A-Rod's fessing-up to the ludicrous denials of Bonds, Clemens, McGwire, and Manny, and gives him some credit on that score. The bottom line seemed to be that Jeff could not pick a bottom line.

That's pretty much the way I feel too. But nevertheless, I am willing to give him his day in the sun.

The Poet 08-04-2010 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 941140)
Does it really count if 300+ (I just threw a number out at random) of them were with steroids?

Andy, no offense, but that "300+" figure is just silly, and you know it. I seriously doubt if the number that was "juiced" is as much as 30. He tested positive while in Texas, where he hit, over 3 seasons, 156 total. With his swing, most of those would have gone out anyway. Like I keep saying, it is OK to not like the guy. But be fair . . . the man would have hit 600 anyway, juice or not.

Starscream 08-04-2010 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 941143)
I just read an interesting column by Jeff Passan on Yahoo Sports re this matter, and it appears that he himself does not even know where to stand on this issue. For instance, he says nobody will blink when A-Rod hits 610 to surpass Sammy Sosa (who not only juiced, but corked to boot), but may react differently when #631 sails him past Junior. Then he contrasts A-Rod's fessing-up to the ludicrous denials of Bonds, Clemens, McGwire, and Manny, and gives him some credit on that score. The bottom line seemed to be that Jeff could not pick a bottom line.

That's pretty much the way I feel too. But nevertheless, I am willing to give him his day in the sun.

That's my problem with it. I'm not a big hater of PEDs in sports (they're not good, but not as evil as everyone makes them out to be, but that's another issue for another day), but when major milestones are made by those who blatantly cheat, it takes away from the true greats like Jr., Aaron, Ruth, and Gehrig. When (if) Jeter overtakes Pete Rose for the all-time hits record I will be a bit sad but will definitely cheer Jeter for his accomplishment. Jeter is a class act and there are many in baseball like him (stand-up guys). Unfortunately, baseball has turned into a sport that caters to guys like A-Rod and Manny.

The Poet 08-04-2010 02:53 PM

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Now THAT I cannot argue with, my brother.

Starscream 08-09-2010 01:14 PM

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Congrats to Jeter for surpassing Ruth on the all-time hit list!

The Poet 08-09-2010 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 946758)
Congrats to Jeter for surpassing Ruth on the all-time hit list!

And for handling it with typical Jeterian aplomb. Love the Yanks or hate them, you can't deny Jeets is a class act.

Starscream 08-09-2010 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 946766)
And for handling it with typical Jeterian aplomb. Love the Yanks or hate them, you can't deny Jeets is a class act.

Amen to that. He's one to never want to take credit for anything. He's all about team.:tu

The Poet 08-09-2010 02:26 PM

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Seattle Mariners just fired Don Wakamatsu as mis-manager.

Starscream 08-09-2010 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 946858)
Seattle Mariners just fired Don Wakamatsu as mis-manager.

Who's interim?

The Poet 08-09-2010 02:44 PM

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Daren Brown, from 3A Tacoma.

The Poet 09-17-2010 04:03 PM

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It has been announced that Joe Torre, present manager of the LA Dodgers, will retire at the end of this season. He will be replaced by the man who made me a Yankee fan . . . the one and only Donnie Baseball, Don Mattingly.

Though Torre now plans to remain an advisor with the Dodgers, he has yet to rule out the possibility that he might manage again. Are you listening, Mac? Your Mets don't seem to have much of one at the moment, although they do have a more glaring need for a GM . . . and a few players. :D

kelmac07 09-17-2010 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 992164)
It has been announced that Joe Torre, present manager of the LA Dodgers, will retire at the end of this season. He will be replaced by the man who made me a Yankee fan . . . the one and only Donnie Baseball, Don Mattingly.

Though Torre now plans to remain an advisor with the Dodgers, he has yet to rule out the possibility that he might manage again. Are you listening, Mac? Your Mets don't seem to have much of one at the moment, although they do have a more glaring need for a GM . . . and a few players. :D

I can't hear you I can't hear you I can't hear you I can't hear you I can't hear you I can't hear you I can't hear you :r :r :r :r

The Poet 09-17-2010 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 992170)
I can't hear you I can't hear you I can't hear you I can't hear you I can't hear you I can't hear you I can't hear you :r :r :r :r

I can still remember the headlines in the New York tabloids back when the Yankees hired Torre, when they called him "Clueless Joe". :r

MedicCook 09-17-2010 10:32 PM

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Yankees Win!!!

Rays Lost!!!

Red Sox Lost!!!

Yankees back in 1st place!!!

VirtualSmitty 09-17-2010 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 992506)
Yankees Win!!!

Rays Lost!!!

Red Sox Lost!!!

Yankees back in 1st place!!!

Yeah, good night. Quite the finish too, think A-Rod will get to 30 hrs this year?

MedicCook 09-17-2010 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty (Post 992538)
Yeah, good night. Quite the finish too, think A-Rod will get to 30 hrs this year?

He seems to be finding a groove the last couple days.

VirtualSmitty 09-18-2010 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 992547)
He seems to be finding a groove the last couple days.

Yeah, five dingers in two weeks doesn't seem like too much of a stretch.

The Poet 09-18-2010 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty (Post 992965)
Yeah, five dingers in two weeks doesn't seem like too much of a stretch.

He has a decent shot anyway.

kelmac07 09-18-2010 01:16 PM

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AFraud will finish with 29!! :D

The Poet 09-18-2010 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 993002)
AFraud will finish with 29!! :D

Or roughly, as far behind as are the Mets. :r

VirtualSmitty 09-18-2010 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 993002)
AFraud will finish with 29!! :D

You gone and done it now Mac, now he is gonna finish with forty :r

kelmac07 09-18-2010 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 993054)
Or roughly, as far behind as are the Mets. :r

Ouch!! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty (Post 993080)
You gone and done it now Mac, now he is gonna finish with forty :r

Probably so!! :r :r


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