Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

Got mine today. Looks like the West Coast is in business.

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

Kelly likes me

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

UPS seems to have handed my package off by having it "tendered to local post office. Lucky me.

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

yup just got mine yesterday I quickly did some editing and got them all good to go. A few needed fixing, but all are more or less working now.

http://imgur.com/fIomr.jpg

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

Got mine...

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

Got mine. They work great

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

Anybody got a Ronson I can barrow ?

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

Sure, whatcha need?

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

Sent Shnoop 2 messages asking about tracking numbers, perhaps a shipping notification. Silly me, all the Shnoops wanted for Xmas was to get rid of 12 more lighters.
The dirty dozen arrived late this afternoon via the hybrid of UPS to our town's ridiculously small post office, then US Postal Service beater truck to our house in the dank dark woods above Henderson Bay.
Four different styles. They cleaned up nicely and glory of glories, they all work. The chrome ones are my faves.
Any cigar pals wanting one should send a PM. You may get a bit of swag, too.

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

Got mine yesterday also in AZ tested them out most work and most have some sticky residue on them. I have to do more testing some have large flames and others are barely there.

Anyone know how to fix them if once you let go the flame still burns strong? Or worse the gas keeps running? If there's no way these are prob destined for the trash.

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

Bump.
If you're not interested in cash,
I'm sure we can trade for something.
Hmmmm....let's see......what about cigars?

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

FYI, if you ordered from this deal please watch your credit cards. Everyone I know over on the other forums that ordered this deal has had fradulant charges appear.

I Just got a call from Amex Fraud. Nailed for $3,000 charge to Luftansa and a 40.00 charge to Air asia.

Thankfully Amex is very good at detecting this stuff and stopped them in their tracks.

I have no doubt that the use of Schnoops was the culprit either through a direct fraud by the website or and indirect hacking into their database.

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

I'm sure I'm not the first person to do this, but I emailed Shnoop asking who is responsible and for any record of hacks/intrusions, and if they don't respond to me by Tuesday morning, I will make sure the police know they are not cooperating.

I used Poopal so I am safe so far. However, I started the thread about this deal on another forum which ultimately led to the thread here so I feel a little guilty people are getting screwed over!

If you have had fraudulent charges, can you please add your name to the list and include the dollar amount? I would like to work with someone who has had these charges to file a criminal complaint. If someone has already contacted the police, can you let me know?

List of BOTLs with fraudulent charges (please copy and paste in your post):
1. Starz26 - $3,000
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Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

I get almost instant email notifications of ANY charges to my card.
Have not seen anything to date.

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

Just went online and checked.
Nothing.
If this vendor was responsible, I am sure I too would have been hit by now.

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

Wow, here is Shnoop's response:

Thank you for your recent purchase. Presently, shnoop.com uses "Poopal" as the credit card processor, even for direct credit card orders. As such, all transactions are processed on "Poopal's" secure payment platform, which employs a sophisticated and proprietary algorithm to detect fraudulent transactions. In addition to this, we also subscribe to McAfee Secure, which performs a daily audit on our sites to ensure that all data sent between our sites and the credit card processor is secure, as well as PCI Compliance. Therefore, we do not believe that the security of your credit card was compromised on our site. If you have fraudulent transactions on your credit card, we encourage you to contact your card issuing bank to dispute the fraudulent transactions and request that they investigate the cause of it. Please don't hesitate to email us back if you have any further questions.

Regards,

The Shnoop Team

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

FYI, Ryan....if a credit card company does not hold the cardholder responsible for fraudulent charges, the cardholder is no longer the victim in any criminal case...the credit card company would have to pursue the criminal charges.

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

I understand that and I'm sure the credit card co's do all they can to look into fraudulent charges. But there are different credit card companies being used by BOTLs that are getting screwed and if only 1 or 2 people are showing fraud charges for a certain card company, they are probably less likely to fully pursue a possible connection to a vendor than if they realized many more people were getting scammed by using the same vendor. I'm hoping some sort of law enforcement would like to see a complete list of customers whose credit cards are being compromised as this cannot be a coincidence and the trail has to lead to Shnoop.

I'm sure I couldn't help any more than the card co's doing their own investigation, but I have been scammed before and it just pisses me off. When I got scammed, I was told by the FBI and a County Computer Crimes division that they don't have time to go after small fish (even when I gave them a ton of evidence), so I think by creating a comprehensive list, someone would listen. Yeah that's a pipe dream, but still... :)

But if no one here cares after their card co's reverse the charges, then I guess I shouldn't care either... it still just pisses me off! LOL

Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10
 

At least they are taking my inquiry seriously...

2nd email from Shnoop:

Thank you for following up on this with us. Once again, we do regret and apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you. At this time, we have referred this matter to our contact within Poopal, and requested that they review this matter thoroughly, to determine if the fraud was somehow inadvertently linked to shnoop.com. We can assure you that we will do our best to ensure that this is resolved in satisfactory manner to the best of our abilities.

Regards,

The Shnoop Team