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lol. Mine is not a big gun fan either. She has no clue that I'm building a AR but once she finds out :sl

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always always mil-spec. There are more stocks out there for mil-spec if you decide to change your stock out one day.


P.S. I'd NEVER marry anyone not pro-gun. Period. Sleep with...well that's different.

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mine will come around. she's never been exposed to a RESPONSIBLE gun owner before (quite the traumatic opposite, but that's another story). She's willing to give me a shot with them, and when she sees the pleasure that the hobby brings to me, and that it's not actually dangerous when used properly.. and in fact it is very empowering to her own security.. yeah, I think she'll come around. But since I already have "enough" guns, she's going to have to come around a long ways before new purchases are authorized, lol :r

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holy crap.. just got an email from Botach requesting that I confirm my address, and then a reply that the order was heading to shipping dept. Say it aint so! And that order had a very important item in it, a black dog drum for the 15-22! :D

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:r good luck. it's botach after all...

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:bh

I sure hope it shows up... I really want that black dog mag... and I got it for $20 less than black dog's site was selling them for....

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Ok help me out guys.


Buy a midlength free float rail for my midlength AR and keep the front sight. OR
Buy a 15" free float rail, cut the front sight and then buy a flip up sight?

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I vote for the 15" rail. Not much extra weight, and lots more to hold on to, plus gives you a slightly extended irons sight picture. But that's just me. The dissy style never bothered me, always looked practical.

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Yeh. only thing is then i have to wait cuz the ones I want are all OOS lol

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which rails do you want exactly?

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Troy Alpha or the Troy Vtac

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well, not sure the color you want, but if you want a BLACK 15" alpha, I picked one up from Brownells last month and won't be using it, just waiting to get boxed up and sent back sometime next week.

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This one right?
http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts...4.aspx?ttver=1

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Aye, that's the one

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PM sent

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Blah! 2.5hrs left of work!

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blah! havn't slept in 24 hours.... and still a long long ways away from being able to sleep.... maybe late this afternoon...

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WTF why?

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too much to do, too little time to do it!
Now it looks like my computer is acting up enough that I gotta reload this morning... in time to get a photo project done and to the printer in the afternoon...
Might have to cancel 11am salsa lessons....

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:r sounds like u need a vacation

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It's called a honeymoon, starts April 7th. :tg

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That won't be a vacation. You'll be putting in work. :xxx






:r

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:r :r :r

Be more of a vacation than this/the next few months will be.

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Word!

Blah! I need moar $! Wanting a new DSLR

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Holy expensive Batman.

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I'm slowly accumulating the parts to add to my AR, once it finally arrives. Just bought a rear flip up sight off a guy on AR15.com last night. Now bought a flip down front sight off Armslist this morning. Now to win the Vltor CASV on ebay this weekend.

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Yeh... It's really not. Not for a good ar15 rail

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Those Troy Battle rails are nice. If I ultimately don't get the Vltor, those are one of my other options.

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Which vltor?

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CASV-EL

I like the sleek look of it as compared to traditional quad rails. Plus I don't have to remove the barrel nut, etc which I hear can be a real PITA on RRA's fresh from the factory.

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Sweet rail.
Is that a free float or drop in?

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It is sweet. That's what I was gonna go with if i kept my FSB, only the CASVM.

It's really as drop-in free float. It's a two-piece free float. I assume you'd just have to cut the delta ring off.


I do agree that it's nice to not have to change the barrel nut. That's why I'm getting the Troy, it uses the stock barrel nut.

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Have a M4 front and it has the fixed sight. So I have to cut the sight if I want to go with a rail more than 7"?

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yes. you'll either have to cut it above the gas tube area and grind it down to fit under a rail, or take it off and put on a lo-pro gas block of some kind.

Depending on the rail you choose you may have to remove the barrel nut and replace it with the provided one.

Videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQvHdVw5eAE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfYpR6TLEMI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS_rkTnk914

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You can always go DanielDefense, but the look doesn't appeal to me :2.

https://danieldefense.com/rail-syste...p-carbine.html

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I want a Noveske hammer :D :banger:

http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin...=hammer_1d.jpg

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Yeh. i think that's stupid looking and you'd be better off with a 7" :r

Plus side to shaving the FSB down and putting say a 15" rail like i am is you can put a flip up or fixed sight on the front basically giving you rifle length sight radius, even a lil longer, which will increase iron sight accuracy.

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I agree, it does look retarded. I think I'll just stick with the Magpul MOE guard for now. Going to a long rail is too much work for my lazy butt

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Because sharing is caring:

http://imageshack.us/a/img40/6664/20130211171843.jpg

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That's what I have on my middy. Black.

Nice guns and suppressor Mike!

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yep, $180-$210 es about par for the course for every 15" free float rail out there that won't fall apart on you or instantly transform your AR into a replica boat anchor.

Here's the 15" rail that I want to get for my 20" upper. 15" at the top, 16 3/8" at the bottom. Only tradeoff is that I have to change out the barrel nut, which is ok, because the nut on my 20" is well worn... but still, a PITA. :/ ... kinda want to stick one on the 16" as well.... but already have a Midwest SS15 for that one, and don't have toe change the nut...
(pictured is on an 18" upper)

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7...126_112111.jpg

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what is it?

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Diamondhead V-RS T

There's some more pics here on arfcom, including the cleverly designed barrel nut. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_12/58...Handguard.html

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downside, for a 16" barrel you almost have to go with the 13.5" top rail. here's a picture of the 15" rail on a 16" gun.

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...22783966_n.jpg

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How much are they? That looks sweet

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Damn you Francis. That Diamondhead it slick looking. For me, I don't really need a true quad rail as i doubt I'll put anything on it other than a vertical grip. I like the sleeker lines of these configurable rail systems. Now you just muddied the waters even more. :D

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about par for the course.
$190 for the 13.5"
$210 for the 15"

There's also a 13" VRS-TD model that's designed to retrofit over the top of a delta ring, no cutting or mods needed, for $220... but I prefer the look of the "T" model going all the way back to the receiver.
http://www.store-diamondhead-usa.com...tem_p/2281.htm

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did you follow the arfcom link and check out the barrel nut design? That's what sold me... if I gotta change a barrel nut out, THAT'S the nut I want to put on! beefy and slim, no gas port timing issues!

And I likewise don't need a quad... I want lightweight. Quad rail with an accessory on the end of it on a 20" rifle and the damed thing start7 getting hard to shoot offhand, too much weight on the end.

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Wow, that is a beefy barrel nut. I'd probably get the drop in model, cause I too am lazy and don't have the proper tools to change it out.

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I don't have the right tools either.... but that's never stopped me from getting into trouble before :noon