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MurphysLaw 02-08-2013 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1792814)
Woohoo.
Scored two Rock River lowers in stock from PK.

Very nice, I love my RRA AR15, wouldn't mind building another, but just can't justify the cost right now

spectrrr 02-08-2013 03:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 1792811)
True.
Was considering ordering a Phase 5.
Anyone know anything about them?
Looks nice and at $149, just an 8-12 week wait but don't see that as an issue as not in rush.

I havn't heard anything bad about Phase5 that I couldnt write off to brand snobbery

spectrrr 02-08-2013 03:16 PM

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Nice score on the lowers :tu

I wasn't paying attention to my email, missed BCM auto bolt carrier groups in stock an hour ago. :/

emopunker2004 02-08-2013 03:26 PM

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That sux Francis.

Well F@ck me. Bought one of these, and installed it on my shotgun. Only to find out the forend runs into it and i cant work the action. Time to buy a speedfeed LE forend from Amazon...
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg

bonjing 02-08-2013 03:36 PM

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Did anyone else get an awesome email from Larue Tactical!

spectrrr 02-08-2013 03:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1792882)
That sux Francis.

Well F@ck me. Bought one of these, and installed it on my shotgun. Only to find out the forend runs into it and i cant work the action. Time to buy a speedfeed LE forend from Amazon...
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg

DOH.



I just had to cancel one of the ammo sales I made on gunbroker. Un believable how much people CAN'T #$^#$^ READ.

Terms of the sale (stated clearly in the auction):
1) No sales to Illinois
2) Buyer responsible to know local laws.
3) check/money order only.

This dimwit lives in Illinois and bid on it... So I let that slide, just send me your FOID card and we'll call it good.
Then come to find out he moved, didn't get a new FOID card or ID, and those are the only two addresses I can send to. Oh yeah, and "his wife is not comfortable with with a check", so now he wants to use HeyGal, which is even more of a no-no for guns than it is for cigars!

So yep... out $20 in listing fees, time spent researching Illinois law... God people, is it that **** hard to READ the auction before you start bidding?

/Rant Off

emopunker2004 02-08-2013 03:43 PM

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did someone else bid? sell it to them

spectrrr 02-08-2013 03:43 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonjing (Post 1792883)
Did anyone else get an awesome email from Larue Tactical!

nope - cool presale for in-the-know people only?

big pete 02-08-2013 03:53 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Woot! It's a good day so far: it's Friday, my friend is taking my spare upper, and my Spike's upper shipped today. Looks like I'll be putting together my AR next weekend

emopunker2004 02-08-2013 03:56 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
just ordered the LE forend. Should arrive tuesday

bonjing 02-08-2013 04:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 1792887)
nope - cool presale for in-the-know people only?

No it's just a very very supportive email to law abiding citizens of the US. VEry political so cannot post here.

jluck 02-08-2013 04:57 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
What magazines do AR-9's use?

emopunker2004 02-08-2013 05:06 PM

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What brand? Some use colt some use Uzi

bonjing 02-08-2013 05:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jluck (Post 1792934)
What magazines do AR-9's use?

What do you have?

Like emo said most are colt style or converted uzi mags, some new ones are glock.

jluck 02-08-2013 05:39 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1792942)
What brand? Some use colt some use Uzi

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonjing (Post 1792956)
What do you have?

Like emo said most are colt style or converted uzi mags, some new ones are glock.

I don't have any yet... I want to build a 22TCM AR and am just planning now.

I didn't know if there was different ones or a constant standard.

spectrrr 02-08-2013 05:56 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1792886)
did someone else bid? sell it to them

yeah, but they already purchased a different one of my ammo lots when they didn't win this one.

Just finished writing a nice 1.5 page letter this joker explaining in no uncertain terms that he basically has three options. Get his sh!t together, fix his ID and mail a check... /OR/ send me $24 in listing fees via HeyGal, we'll leave positive feedback and go our ways... /OR/ I file for non paying bidder with gunbroker and they will terminate his account. :bx

ChicagoWhiteSox 02-08-2013 10:08 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Grabbed 4 boxes of 180 grain Underwood xtp 10mm. Want to grab another handgun soon, possibly another Glock. RRA ar-15 after that:D

emopunker2004 02-08-2013 11:49 PM

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Someone stop me please. I'm considering selling my AR-15 and getting DSLR equipment again...

spectrrr 02-08-2013 11:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1793055)
Someone stop me please. I'm considering selling my AR-15 and getting DSLR equipment again...

Shoulda done that about 3 weeks ago ;)

You won't get much help from me though, I love both shooting hobbies :)

emopunker2004 02-08-2013 11:53 PM

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:bh
Guess I can just save some monies from my tax return and work some OT...
It just costs so much to replace my AR ammo right now and I can shoot a DSLR all day for free basically :r

spectrrr 02-09-2013 12:00 AM

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Just need a couple hi cap mags, err, I mean memory cards :)

emopunker2004 02-09-2013 12:16 AM

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Ugh. I guess I'm gonna put up 100rds of my 5.56 for trade. I need some Federal LE132 or PD132 low recoil 00 buck with the flight control wad.

emopunker2004 02-09-2013 12:48 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1793061)
Ugh. I guess I'm gonna put up 100rds of my 5.56 for trade. I need some Federal LE132 or PD132 low recoil 00 buck with the flight control wad.

Well worked out a deal with a cop here. 180rds of LE132 for $100 and my 100rds. Good deal since that stuff sells locally for $9 per box of 5 IF you can find it.

spectrrr 02-09-2013 01:09 AM

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nice.... $9 a box... expensive for 00 buck.. why do you need such high grade stuff?

emopunker2004 02-09-2013 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 1793063)
nice.... $9 a box... expensive for 00 buck.. why do you need such high grade stuff?

It's gonna be for HD use but this **** is the tits! Here's a pattern from it:

10yrds

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f234/ae86sba/2-1.jpg

15yrds

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f234/ae86sba/3-2.jpg

spectrrr 02-09-2013 01:30 AM

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mmmm, nasty tight grouping on that.

emopunker2004 02-09-2013 01:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 1793065)
mmmm, nasty tight grouping on that.

Yep. It's from the flight control wad that federal puts in it. we used some at the range when i was in the academy and it's amazing stuff. copper plated shot too. can still shoot a chest sized group at 25yds. :r

spectrrr 02-09-2013 02:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1793066)
Yep. It's from the flight control wad that federal puts in it. we used some at the range when i was in the academy and it's amazing stuff. copper plated shot too. can still shoot a chest sized group at 25yds. :r

sounds like I need some of that stuff :)

emopunker2004 02-09-2013 02:21 AM

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exactly :r

emopunker2004 02-09-2013 02:22 AM

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It's federal LE132-00 or PD132-00 and they have a 127 which is full power. The ones I got are low recoil

emopunker2004 02-09-2013 07:52 AM

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Here's my haul. 180rds of federal LE132-00 :noon
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8246/8...648389cb_c.jpg
Untitled by emopunker2004, on Flickr

big pete 02-09-2013 03:14 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Got a shipping notice from PSA that the upper shipped. Amazed that it only took a week.

emopunker2004 02-09-2013 03:34 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by big pete (Post 1793225)
Got a shipping notice from PSA that the upper shipped. Amazed that it only took a week.

That's retarded fast for psa

big pete 02-09-2013 04:34 PM

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Actually 4 days (ordered on Tuesday). I may have to take a look at both uppers when they get here next week and decide which one I want to keep. I hope to be breaking her in next weekend.

On another note, shot my friends AR9 today and was surprised at how fun it was to shoot. Very little recoil and was quieter than I expected. I really want to build one now

bonjing 02-09-2013 05:12 PM

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My next project :noon


http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/j...d27745c3-1.jpg

Chainsaw13 02-09-2013 08:42 PM

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So I'm really getting geeked about getting my AR. I'm never satisfied with stock. I can see this getting very costly. :D

Been researching new front rails. Since I don't have access to the tools, and don't know anyone with them, I'm looking at two piece rails. YHM, Troy, DD are all contenders. Then I saw the Vltor. Ooh. Right in my wheel house. I love the minimalistic look. Now if only someone has them in stock. Eh, no rush. Still need the gun first.

emopunker2004 02-09-2013 08:59 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 1793350)
So I'm really getting geeked about getting my AR. I'm never satisfied with stock. I can see this getting very costly. :D

Been researching new front rails. Since I don't have access to the tools, and don't know anyone with them, I'm looking at two piece rails. YHM, Troy, DD are all contenders. Then I saw the Vltor. Ooh. Right in my wheel house. I love the minimalistic look. Now if only someone has them in stock. Eh, no rush. Still need the gun first.

I recommend against a plain collapsible stock. Get the Magpul CTR, it has a compression lock on it that keeps it from wiggling. Or if you prefer a lil more cheek weld get the STR. For a rail get the Troy alpha rail. It uses the stock barrel nut. All you need to do is chop down the front site block to a low profile block and take the hand guards and delta ring off.
This is a troy alpha rail and STR stock. Nice and simple!
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/3a93cd16.jpg

big pete 02-09-2013 09:22 PM

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I like my Magpul ACS stock ;)

While I'm waiting for my upper to come, I've been looking at scopes but I'm so lost. What's a decent scope for 50-200yards (probably shooting at around 100yards most of the time)? Preferable at or around $200.

spectrrr 02-09-2013 09:28 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 1793350)
So I'm really getting geeked about getting my AR. I'm never satisfied with stock. I can see this getting very costly. :D

Been researching new front rails. Since I don't have access to the tools, and don't know anyone with them, I'm looking at two piece rails. YHM, Troy, DD are all contenders. Then I saw the Vltor. Ooh. Right in my wheel house. I love the minimalistic look. Now if only someone has them in stock. Eh, no rush. Still need the gun first.

+1 on keepin things nice and simple.

Troy is good, light, nice feel. I've got a 15" troy alpha rail. Bear in mind that all barrel nuts are not created equal, so it's not unheard of to find a troy alpha rail (or other similarly attaching tubes) not line up right or fit a little off. The general advice in those cases is try a different barrel nut :)

For my current build, I'm getting ready to order a Diamondhead V-RS rail. I like the aggressive front look, and the barrel nut it uses is pure genius - no fancy tools needed, and it sits below the gas tube, so you don't have to line them up and screw with timing issues. There's some pics of the barrel nut about halfway down in this thread here. A word of warning though with this one - the stated measurement length is for the TOP half. The bottom sits about 1 3/8" forward of the top. So a 15" rail is really 16 3/8" at the bottom.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_12/58...Handguard.html

elderboy02 02-09-2013 09:30 PM

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Magpul :)

emopunker2004 02-09-2013 09:33 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by big pete (Post 1793375)
I like my Magpul ACS stock ;)

While I'm waiting for my upper to come, I've been looking at scopes but I'm so lost. What's a decent scope for 50-200yards (probably shooting at around 100yards most of the time)? Preferable at or around $200.

Primary arms makes good budget optics. I would think a 1-4x would be enough.

https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_...4X_p/pa14x.htm

emopunker2004 02-09-2013 09:38 PM

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Or Vortex if u want a 4-12x but not sure it'd be too good at 50yrds

https://www.primaryarms.com/Vortex_C.../cf2-31015.htm

Chainsaw13 02-09-2013 09:51 PM

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Went to a local gun show today to see if I could get a hands on feel for ideas on my setup. Price gouging was in full effect. Tulammo for $1/rd. :r

There was one table with a couple of guys selling some of their own stuff they've collected, not the typical dealers. Anyway he had an Acog on the table. Start talking to him about it and checking it out. If it wasn't brand new, it was damn near close. $600. He had already sold 9 earlier in the day. This was the last one. They had gotten them from an auction, so they didn't know any history in them. I left to check out the rest if the tables, and contemplate how I could come up with $600. Came back and it was sold. Damn, but my wallet thanked me.

spectrrr 02-09-2013 09:52 PM

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2-7x might be a nice range for you. Redfield makes a budget minded one. Still useful at close range, and a little extra clarity farther away.

I guess it depends what you're going to shoot at 50 yards too... a 3-9x is a fairly classic scope range and readily available.

Me personally, I like things CLOSE for target shooting. I'd use a 20x at 100yds if I could. More tactical oriented shooting however, and it's 1-4x or 2-7x at max. My mini14 wears a 3-9x. My 3gun AR will wear a 1-4x.

emopunker2004 02-09-2013 09:56 PM

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Another option is a higher magnification scope but to have iron sights on the gun at a 45* offset for close work, which I'd say 50yrds counts as.

http://olegvolk.net/gallery/d/40861-...ights_9305.jpg

spectrrr 02-09-2013 10:21 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1793390)
Another option is a higher magnification scope but to have iron sights on the gun at a 45* offset for close work, which I'd say 50yrds counts as.

http://olegvolk.net/gallery/d/40861-...ights_9305.jpg

I just used those angled sights for the first time on my 15-22 this month, and I love em, I would stick em on every one of my builds if I could.

Of course, I stuck the $35 cheap ones on the 15-22... and they feel like it. On a plinker AR, screw it, I would probably still use the $35 ones.... for a competition gun like the 3gun one I'm building... I imagine I'll eventually have to bite the bullet and pony up the $230 for real ones....

bonjing 02-09-2013 10:32 PM

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Better picture (I hope)

emopunker2004 02-09-2013 10:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr (Post 1793396)
I just used those angled sights for the first time on my 15-22 this month, and I love em, I would stick em on every one of my builds if I could.

Of course, I stuck the $35 cheap ones on the 15-22... and they feel like it. On a plinker AR, screw it, I would probably still use the $35 ones.... for a competition gun like the 3gun one I'm building... I imagine I'll eventually have to bite the bullet and pony up the $230 for real ones....

You could always buy these and put whatever sights or reddot you want on them...

http://www.gggaz.com/images/detailed...-Rail-2012.jpg

http://www.gggaz.com/45-degree-offse...sory-rail.html

spectrrr 02-09-2013 11:01 PM

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yeah, though if you're using em for a pair of normal mount rail sight blocks (like the spare pair I got kicking around that came on my 15-22), they will sit pretty high off the gun. Kinda awkward. :)

Always did think having a red dot mounted like that next to a 2-7x or a 3-9x scope was a pretty slick setup. :tu

emopunker2004 02-09-2013 11:29 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Francis. Here's a buckshot comparison at 15yrds into a car door. LE132-00 on the left, regular tactical buckshot on the right...just saying...

http://www.animalinc.com/ar15/200611...picture-20.jpg


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