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Drank most of this bottle this morning after work.... great stuff!



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some notable bottles that I have had of late:

1997 Groth Oakville Cabernet Sauvignon
---this was a great bottle, good juicy dark red fruit, mellowed tannins but still there. This wine could still go for a few more (~3) years.
1993 Ferrari-Carano Tresor
--- opened 2 bottles for a family dinner, this wine is still showing well if you like that aged bordeaux flavor, the fruit is fading, on the pallet it is quite earthy and hints of mushroom came through, huge complex nose. This vintage is on its last legs IMHO, it should be drunk sooner than later.

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Goldeneye Gowan Creek Pinot Noir

yum

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Did some reading one this one, sounds like a great bottle.

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Few months ago I had a bottle of this at a friends house and, taste being subjective, thought it was an excellent drink. So got around to picking up a few bottles. If you can, might want to give it a go. From what I understand stock is pretty low now.

2006 Tomaiolo Morellino di Scansano (95 points)

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Ron

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How much were those selling for?

WS's last review was for 2004 and it was $14 a bottle. Tuscan wines (as are most Italian wines) really underpriced right now, so for sure it is wise to stock up.

Yesterday, I picked up a case and 3 extra bottles of 2007 Dezanni "La luna e le stelle" Barbera d'Asti at Costco. My local Costco has independent wine buyers who pick up a pallet of this-and-that, that sells out stupid quickly at rock bottom prices. I went to Costco to buy coffee beans and walked out with a case of wine! Packaged in wood too for $10 a bottle!

I had one bottle last night at a friend's house and everyone loved it. I have one more to try at my house and one bottle to put in the cellar (to keep me from opening the case) to evaluate its development.

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$12 a bottle - free shipping on six or more.


Ron

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Good score! :tu

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Height-Brown Picnic Red. Its a Connecticut vineyard and runs about $17 a bottle. It has a touch of sweetness, but not too sweet. thats my go to right now
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:drMmmmm, wine. That's all.:al

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Just had a 1995 Ferrari-Carano Tresor tonight with some family, what a difference between this and the 1993, much bigger juicy red fruit with hints of cedar, a great wine with plenty of life left

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You're comparing two very different vintages. 1995 was by far among the best in the past I have no idea how many years, similar to 2001 and 2005. 1993 was, well, similar to 1998 and 2008 (very bad that is).

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It is pretty interesting to taste the difference between the two vintages, I wouldn't say that the 1993 was bad but definitely not nearly as good as the 1995, I am glad I have 1 more bottle.

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I never had seen that bottlling of Ferrari-Carano.

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Had a 06' Clos Du Bois last night it was my first Cab I ever tried 2 years ago. Still love it. Funny I used to hate Red Wines, and drank sweet whites (ice wine, Reisling), now I don't like them.
Have my taste matured or is it just in my head?

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its a bordeaux blend, I believe it is still in production.

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agreed-hmmmm wine!

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Their high end for some time now. In Bay Area its all over the place, not sure how much of it makes it out of Bay Area, but then you can say that about many other CA wines. CA wine selection on the Right Coast is piss pour, even at best shops. Interestingly enough, West Coast shops also have better selection of Old World wines as well. We seem to be drinking better :banger

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Greg you have great taste in wine. What were the last couple of bottles you brought with you to Eric's herf?

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You mean Saxum Syrah and Turley Zin? We had others that day...

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I always loose track after the fourth or fifth bottle, too.

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I don't think they'll get as low a price as here. I've been buying 2000 Ch Fortia CdP for $11 and no sales tax in MA.

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Lance, I can name ALL the wines we consumed that day and the order we drank them in. The herf was back in April, IIRC? :D

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Is that a challenge? :D
Drinking herf is ON!!!:su
(J/K) I don't ever drink to excess any more.

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yes, those were the names I was looking for.
drinking too much might occur at a herf but I rarely do.
I however more than likely forget the names of people
i meet, cigars
i smoke and wines I drink. Never do I forget a face.

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Hmmm... Easy pickings, my friend :D I've been running wine tastings since late '90s, a good number a year, and I can recall most of them, bottles wise as well, up to 30+ bottles at times.

Wine is not meant to be drunk to excess. That's what liquor is for :D

Most of the latter herfs you have missed included a good number of bottles, you just didn't attend. But another drinking herf is a good possibility. I just need to get back from FL first...

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Once the serious part of a wine tasting is done, start pounding them back! It’s not a wine event unless there’s at least 1.5 bottles per person. I like to keep port wine events to at least 1 bottle per person.

Keep the thimbles for sewing!

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Moses, this is funny. About 2 years ago, one in the group, fit 6"6 frame and all, winemaker as well, was screaming at the rest of us for having way too many bottles to taste through and hw he just has hard time keeping up with the rest of us :) Have no idea why one needs to spend 5 mins on a wine, but... That night was roughly 3+ bottles per taster (IIRC, I brought 5 just myself). And yes, once we score and reveal wines (all blind and double blind, never open), as you can imagine most bottles are "emptied". Unless they suck...

We try to "adjust" since, but we never have less than 2+ per person and this on top of other wines we open before we proceed to the official part of the tasting, easy whites and sparklers to calibrate and cleanse the palate. And plenty of food, of course, before, during and after...

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I don't think 5 minutes on a wine is that much, depending how detailed of a review one wants.

Give me 2 minutes and my score will as close as any of the big names I agree with.

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Here's a picture of a Jean Bourdy tasting I went to the other night. Jura wines are among the longest living and able to age wines available. Their whites can age 150 years no problem. :noon

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Too bad all the so called "professionals" keep telling people its the red wines that age better and longer. In fact, whites age way better and are more affordable to boot (Chenin Blanc, Riesling, Champagnes, Sauternes, etc.)

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Any "expert" should know that acidity is what makes for long term aging, not tannin.

What I found interesting from this tasting is that Bourdy says that wine cellars should have seasonal temp swings if you want to age wine a long time. Their cellar goes from freezing to 60 degrees and that steady temp cellars do not age wine for a long time (30+ years) as well.

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You're preaching to the choir here, Moses. I was lambasted by the self appointed experts, both consumers and pros, when I pointed out that it is the acidity and not tannin that preserves wine after Jancis Robinson made a statement that tannin is the main preserver. Pointed out a good number of wines, as examples, that don't even see oak, or are aged in very old barrels that are more than neutral, whites that age much longer and better than those using new oak by the simple fact of built-in acidity. Same thing when I took Parker to task on the subject, his arguments fell apart as I took them all down, one by one. No matter, I was the villain in the argument and no matter how stupid and ridiculous Parker's arguments looked his sycophants ran with them as they defended his POV. Still do if you ask them. But Parker and Robinson are not alone, I deal with supposed pros (retail and restaurant buyers) that think same way they were taught never asking the right questions and blindly following what "books say".

Champagne is the perfect example here: No oak aging, plenty of acidity and built-in ability to live and age for a very, very long time.

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I don't know about lonnnnng term aging of whites but some that I have overlooked in my cellar that got to be 15 years old tasted great.
I have always heard that seasonal temp variation is ok but daily swings are damaging. This is the first time I have heard that seasonal variation is desirable. I will worry less about my cellar now.

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Lance, temp variation issues are overplayed, IMO. Wines are more than sturdy when aging. I do not recommend allowing them to go through wild temp swings, but even daily up and down swings of a few degrees are fine. Most in my tasting group have wine cellars of some sort, I simply keep one room in the house cooled down (can't afford anything that could hold 60-80+ cases) and wines that I bring to tastings never show any storage issues. We're talking 60-74F temps depending on season.

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I have a natural cellar that sees seasonal swings and have been using it over 15 years. The oldest bottles are as nice as one would want of "good provenance" bottles. I see little reason to modify except for increased humdity which does not bode well in an open home cellar next

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Here's a cool bottle I can't wait to try:

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A few pick-ups for Kellie. Been hunting down the Roscato for about six months now. Kept getting told there was no such thing as a red moscato...but I kept on hunting. Perseverance paid off!! :D :D

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Mac is the red moscato sweet or semi sweet?

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Supposed to be sweet...as the regular white moscato is a very sweet wine. The red moscato is supposed to have hints of berry to it. Haven't cracked a bottle yet.

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I saw a red moscato at Kroger's of all places just a few days ago.

Also, I picked up a a bottle of Penfold's Grandfather Port last Friday after a tasting here in Columbus. Grahams 20 year tawny was my favorite, until now! Recommended for any lovers of Port Wine.

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This is my absolute favorite wine right now. 100% Cabernet.

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Opened my first bottle of 2007 Robert Mondavi Oakville Cabernet Sauvignon. Drinking great right now. Decanted about 2 hours. Some great values in 07 cabs from Cali. I need to stack a few more mid range priced 07's away. Also opened a 2006 Peju Cab Franc. Wow. what a wine. Great earthy flavors, and some forest floor action going on. Not as much oak character as one would expect. This is a wine for the old world wine drinkers to check out.

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I have an 05 Reserve in the basement. Peju makes some very good wines.

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Where is Peju wines from? I like Cab Franc wines.

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"Earthy" and "forest floor" are not flavors I think about in wine. Living in the forest and tasting earth occasionally may have an affect on that.

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Napa. I had a friend take a vacation in Napa a few months back and he stopped at Peju. He brought back a bunch of good bottles. Napa would be a great trip to make.

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I have had quite a few Pejus, my Grandparents love them and always bring a few bottles over for family dinners. They have always been solid performers in my book

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Try a cab franc from the Loire Valley. Hard to believe you've never tasted earth/soil in a wine before. I'd also tell you to try a pinot from North Burgundy, but then again unless you like the smell of sh!t, you won't enjoy them. Sh!t is not an aroma anyone thinks about in wine at first thought.

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Gamay from Loire can be full of non-fruit driven flavors too. I like Loire Valley wines and they are well priced :banger