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Bruins Fan 10-14-2013 03:39 AM

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Well now...:noon:noon

CigarSquid 10-14-2013 07:25 AM

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What a exciting game last night. 1 mistake on a 2 out pitch.

So far, these two games have gone the same way it went down in Oakland.

Tigers beat us Game 1, and A's won with a walk off hit, to the same part of the field in Game 2.

kelmac07 10-14-2013 08:01 AM

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Benoit coughs up another one.

icehog3 10-14-2013 09:01 AM

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If the series ends the same way, I will be happy, Garry. ;)

BlackIrish 10-14-2013 11:36 AM

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I was lucky enough to score some grandstand tickets. Lucky 'cause tix are hard to get, and lucky to be in the grandstand where there's some protection from the wind and the seating is so tight that you stay warm from sheer proximity to the people around you. And the people around you aren't the fancy, luxury-box people, but just regular folks who love the Sox and who'll probably tell their grandkids that they were at last night's game.

It was a great f'ng game. I love October!



Check out this GIF showing Hunter flip over the wall.

http://mlb.si.com/2013/10/14/cop-dav...rii-hunter-gif

357 10-14-2013 11:57 AM

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Unbelievable game. I can't believe the Tiger's waster Scherzer's performance by blowing a 5-1 lead. Brutal. Hopefully Verlander can put us back in the series lead.

icehog3 10-14-2013 03:15 PM

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F***in' Benoit. :hn

AdamJoshua 10-14-2013 09:27 PM

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What a crappy schedule, 4pm eastern so I'll be in the middle of work at 1pm my time when the games are on.

kelmac07 10-15-2013 05:13 AM

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Ryu looked really good last night. Nice win for the Dodgers.

357 10-15-2013 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AdamJoshua (Post 1890608)
What a crappy schedule, 4pm eastern so I'll be in the middle of work at 1pm my time when the games are on.

Something we agree on. We had two stupid game starts against Oakland, a 2:00 PM and a 5:00 PM. I plan to DVR the game and watch it after dinner.

AdamJoshua 10-15-2013 12:08 PM

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I went in this morning and am now home, working second half of the day and going to watch the game. You'd think they are losing a lot of viewing share with this schedule, I don't remember it being this bad in the past, but then again I probably just forgot... like an ex ... you never remember all the really bad stuff. :r

AdamJoshua 10-15-2013 02:48 PM

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Can't play baseball in natural light?

icehog3 10-15-2013 03:30 PM

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Verlander has it going on, and Lackey has settled in nicely.

Ortiz scares me now more than Coco, and he almost jacked another one just now.

AdamJoshua 10-15-2013 03:50 PM

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Edit: don't want to jinx him.


I like how they danced around the issue that John was basically an asshole :r "He's matured", "He's not the same type of guy that he was", etc.,

kelmac07 10-15-2013 05:31 PM

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Cabrera and Fielder needed to produce in that spot.

AdamJoshua 10-15-2013 05:49 PM

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Hey Mac, they are doing just fine... shush! :r

Tio Gato 10-15-2013 05:49 PM

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Sox win!:wo

Bruins Fan 10-15-2013 05:50 PM

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Koji..Koji..Koji:noon

pnoon 10-16-2013 06:51 PM

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Out at second? He wasn't even in the same zip code.

AdamJoshua 10-16-2013 06:59 PM

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Wow Peavy couldn't throw a strike to save his life AND Pedroia bobbled an easy DP ball, that being said I think there are some good Big Bang Theory re-runs on =P

CigarSquid 10-16-2013 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1891138)
Out at second? He wasn't even in the same zip code.

That was a sad call.

icehog3 10-16-2013 08:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1891138)
Out at second? He wasn't even in the same zip code.

Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1891148)
That was a sad call.

Hoping it doesn't matter. Fingers and toes crossed. I still remember Game 2. Leyland better bring in Coke if that scenario repeats itself, or maybe I will start doing coke.....

357 10-17-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1890860)
Cabrera and Fielder needed to produce in that spot.

Game 3, 8th inning, runners on 1st and 3rd, Miggy up to bat with Prince behind him and 0 runs scored in a 1-0 game. Brutal. Miggy admitted to a reporter that he got himself out swinging at junk.

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Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1891138)
Out at second? He wasn't even in the same zip code.

This "neighborhood" crap at 2nd base has to get fixed. I'm against it in all cases, even for my team. Are outs called anywhere else in baseball for being close? There is no justification for this that I can stomach. It's all :bs Are 1st downs granted in the NFL for being close enough to 10 yards from the line of scrimmage?

357 10-17-2013 10:59 AM

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All that aside, it was good to see AJ hitting, walking, stealing, and scoring runs. It seems many of the bats came to life against Peavy. I hope it can continue for the Tigers against Lester.

AdamJoshua 10-17-2013 10:52 PM

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Iggy's play on Ortiz's bloop was one of the top 3 catches, right up there with Lance B.'s rolling dive of a catch to preserve Nomo's no hitter with the RedSox vs the Os many many years ago.

CigarSquid 10-18-2013 06:19 AM

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I am glad to see Boston wake up a bit.

357 10-18-2013 08:52 AM

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Tigers need some extra base hits. Nothing but singles makes it tough to score. Miggy has a pretty good excuse, but Prince has to start cracking the bat. Facing elimination, there's no better tandem of pitchers in the league I'd rather have on the bump that Scherzer and Verlander (if it goes 7).

Bruins Fan 10-18-2013 09:07 AM

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Boston's bull pen has been lights out..Koji has only walked two and given up like two runs in 53 innings.
Sox are back in friendly Fenway..and the bats should come alive?:D

357 10-18-2013 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 1891505)
Boston's bull pen has been lights out..Koji has only walked two and given up like two runs in 53 innings.
Sox are back in friendly Fenway..and the bats should come alive?:D

I don't think homefield offers a big advantage in baseball but Fenway is a bit different in that regard. Knowing how to play fly balls off the monster is an advantage, as is the ability to hit fly balls to LF over that thing. The Tigers did get to Buchholz the first time, so hopefully that will continue.

Bruins Fan 10-18-2013 09:37 AM

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Buchholz is still coming back from an injury,you see flashes of what he his game is.
If he gets it together he is as dominant as any pitcher in the game..we will see what he brings tomorrow?

billybarue 10-18-2013 11:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 357 (Post 1891297)

This "neighborhood" crap at 2nd base has to get fixed. I'm against it in all cases, even for my team. Are outs called anywhere else in baseball for being close? There is no justification for this that I can stomach. It's all :bs Are 1st downs granted in the NFL for being close enough to 10 yards from the line of scrimmage?

Couldn't agree more!

The only justification that is plausible is to eliminate hard/high slides, or just going into 2nd hard, to break up the DP. Sorry, but I don't buy that one either. It's part of the game that has been eliminated. When's the last time you saw someone "really" try to break up a DP. I'm surprised they haven't figured out how to prevent someone going hard into the catcher (ala, Buster Posey).

Are baseball players too frail or fragile today? Wideouts/Tight Ends still have to go across the middle and in hockey you still have to go into the corner for the puck. But I guess baseball is comfortable with where the sport has gone - pitching and home runs. Not much "small ball" played at the MLB level anymore.

AdamJoshua 10-18-2013 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by billybarue (Post 1891544)
Couldn't agree more!

The only justification that is plausible is to eliminate hard/high slides, or just going into 2nd hard, to break up the DP. Sorry, but I don't buy that one either. It's part of the game that has been eliminated. When's the last time you saw someone "really" try to break up a DP. I'm surprised they haven't figured out how to prevent someone going hard into the catcher (ala, Buster Posey).

Are baseball players too frail or fragile today? Wideouts/Tight Ends still have to go across the middle and in hockey you still have to go into the corner for the puck. But I guess baseball is comfortable with where the sport has gone - pitching and home runs. Not much "small ball" played at the MLB level anymore.

I think having people slide in spikes first running as fast as they can does justify a bit of a judgement call on the umps part, don't care who the teams are.

357 10-18-2013 11:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamJoshua (Post 1891545)
I think having people slide in spikes first running as fast as they can does justify a bit of a judgement call on the umps part, don't care who the teams are.

WAHHHHH. :bs

It still happens despite this neighborhood crap. Players get injured trying to complete or breakup double plays all the time. It's part of the game. Leave it alone and get rid of this "you dont' REALLY have to actually touch the base while you have the ball to get an out" interpretation of the rule. It's fundamental to the game.

NFL teams dont' get a first down for 29ft from scrimmage do they? Do they count hitting the goal post as a goal in the NHL? It's insane to me they way it's handled now.

pnoon 10-18-2013 12:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 357 (Post 1891297)
This "neighborhood" crap at 2nd base has to get fixed. I'm against it in all cases, even for my team. Are outs called anywhere else in baseball for being close? There is no justification for this that I can stomach. It's all :bs Are 1st downs granted in the NFL for being close enough to 10 yards from the line of scrimmage?

:tpd:
Quote:

Originally Posted by billybarue (Post 1891544)
Couldn't agree more!

The only justification that is plausible is to eliminate hard/high slides, or just going into 2nd hard, to break up the DP. Sorry, but I don't buy that one either. It's part of the game that has been eliminated. When's the last time you saw someone "really" try to break up a DP. I'm surprised they haven't figured out how to prevent someone going hard into the catcher (ala, Buster Posey).

Are baseball players too frail or fragile today? Wideouts/Tight Ends still have to go across the middle and in hockey you still have to go into the corner for the puck. But I guess baseball is comfortable with where the sport has gone - pitching and home runs. Not much "small ball" played at the MLB level anymore.

:tpd:
Quote:

Originally Posted by 357 (Post 1891546)
It still happens despite this neighborhood crap. Players get injured trying to complete or breakup double plays all the time. It's part of the game. Leave it alone and get rid of this "you dont' REALLY have to actually touch the base while you have the ball to get an out" interpretation of the rule. It's fundamental to the game.

NFL teams dont' get a first down for 29ft from scrimmage do they? Do they count hitting the goal post as a goal in the NHL? It's insane to me they way it's handled now.

:tpd:

I guess to balance things out Bud Selig (the great innovator and caretaker of MLB :rolleyes:) will propose a rule change that will make all fly balls caught on the warning track a super-grand-slam home run worth 5 runs.

AdamJoshua 10-18-2013 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1891551)
:tpd:

:tpd:

:tpd:

I guess to balance things out Bud Selig (the great innovator and caretaker of MLB :rolleyes:) will propose a rule change that will make all fly balls caught on the warning track a super-grand-slam home run worth 5 runs.

I only agree with this rule if it applies to David Ortiz ... oh and what the hell Tom Brady in the case of backyard whiffle ball :D

billybarue 10-18-2013 12:46 PM

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357 said guys are getting injured all the time completing or breaking up DP's at 2nd. Admittedly, I don't watch much baseball anymore but I don't think that happens much anymore. I mean really going hard into the shortstop. Hell, you really can't - the shortstop is almost in right field before he throws the ball to first.

Gotta go in spikes first Peter, unless you mandate head first (Pete Rose) slides into double plays. The only point I draw the line is where maniacs like Ty Cobb would literally sharpen his spikes to intimidate others. And apparently, it wasn't just bravado - he really went in to rip guys up and hurt them. Great player, but POS human being.:td

357 10-18-2013 02:23 PM

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Yes the Ty Cobb style slides (trying to injure) are not common, but guys frequently slide into defensive players to break up double-plays. It happened on the play I was complaining about. Nobody was hurt THAT time but it happens a lot I'm sure given 162 games/year.

I Googled "injured breaking up double play" and there's 5 players mentioned on the first page, no incident older than 2012.

Here's Jacoby Ellsbury this year
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWV7uRtmk0c

According to this http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...42700&c_id=mlb all the player has to do is make an attempt to touch 2B when breaking up a double play.

I suggest a comprimise of sorts. It should be legal to break up the play but if you don't touch the base, you should be ejected. AND, the defensive player would actually have to touch the base and the basesball at the same time, EVERYTIME!!!! This way you would eliminate or strongly discourage going way outside the basepath to injure someone while preserving the fundamentals/integrity of the game.

ChicagoWhiteSox 10-18-2013 02:38 PM

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Jose freaking Abreu:D

357 10-18-2013 03:37 PM

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Good to "see" you Nate. ;)

ChicagoWhiteSox 10-18-2013 04:53 PM

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You too Mike, maybe my Sox can be more of a challenge for your Tigers next year:r doubt it though:tf

ChicagoWhiteSox 10-19-2013 10:57 AM

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Can't wait to see this kid next year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP2PrTvnk3U

AdamJoshua 10-20-2013 12:20 AM

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https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/...38085884_n.png

:r

CigarSquid 10-20-2013 08:41 AM

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If it is really about player safety, then why can a runner barrel into home plate, no intention at all to hit the plate, but rock the catchers world?

AdamJoshua 10-20-2013 09:48 AM

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Catcher has a little more protection than say a second baseman. Also this is all about second and breaking up the double play, at least that's the excuse, it's really the only time it happens.

CigarSquid 10-20-2013 09:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamJoshua (Post 1891858)
Catcher has a little more protection than say a second baseman. Also this is all about second and breaking up the double play, at least that's the excuse, it's really the only time it happens.

Protection? That catcher gear helps getting a shoulder to your ribs? Sin guards help your knees?

They get hit just as hard, are like a defenseless receiver at that point. More then nit, the catcher has very little time to brace.. plus he is kneeling down while the runner is diving right at him.

ChicagoWhiteSox 10-20-2013 10:44 AM

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Oh dear Lord please don't change mlb like nfl and nba. The changes are said to be for the players protection, that is bull$hit.

Bruins Fan 10-20-2013 12:44 PM

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If it's a bang....bang play the fielder gets it.

If it is booted,bobbled or a bad throw then it is looked at very close and called accordingly.

That is the way it has been called forever for all teams.

AdamJoshua 10-20-2013 12:44 PM

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Edit: NM go back to whaaaaa

You wanna ***** and complain complain about Joe West's every changing strike zone lol

icehog3 10-21-2013 10:48 PM

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OK, I guess we can close this thread up now and start the 2014 thread.


;) :lr

CigarSquid 10-21-2013 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1892269)
OK, I guess we can close this thread up now and start the 2014 thread.


;) :lr

I was ready a week ago.


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