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thats an ugly picture, alves should give gsp a challenge. dont forget about paul thiago, he could be a future champ. and he is already a primetime guy in only his second ufc appearance. Fitch's face might get rearanged again.

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I've been following gsp for a LONG time. Anyway, he's going to destroy alves.

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Two words: Matt Serra ;) Anything can happen though I think GSP will win.

UFC Heavyweight Championship
Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir Hopefully Mir can win again

UFC Welterweight Championship
Georges St. Pierre vs. Thiago Alves Love the Pitbull!

Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping
Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago
Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher
Stephan Bonnar vs. Mark Coleman
Jim Miller vs. Mac Danzig
Dong Hyun Kim vs. T.J. Grant
Jon Jones vs. Jake O’Brien
CB Dollaway vs. Tom Lawlor
Matt Grice vs. Shannon Gugerty

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I really want a win for Mac Danzig. Sick of seeing him lose.

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Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir - I want a rubber match. I think the match of is quite interesting. Won't go past the 2nd round either by Grape Ape poundage or a skilled sub.
Georges St. Pierre vs. Thiago Alves - Alves has the big punch but holds nothing else over GSP. But that big punch can ruin your night.
Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping - Even though Hendo is getting up in the years Bisping hasn't fought anyone close to his caliber. We'll see how good he thinks he is after this fight.
Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago -oddly enough
Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher - Good fight. Everyone thought Kang would run over Belcher.
Stephan Bonnar vs. Mark Coleman
Jim Miller vs.Mac Danzig - Yeah, probably, though I hope I'm wrong.
Dong Hyun Kim vs. T.J. Grant
Jon Jones vs. Jake O’Brien
CB Dollaway vs. Tom Lawlor

:tpd: GSP is an active ground guy and puts a hurting on people. Lay-n-pray didn't force Serra to tap or make BJ 'the man ready to die' Penn unable to walk out of his corner at the bell.


P.S. - I did like the knee-bar Mir put on Lesnar in their 1st fight, so if I see that again I will neither be surprised nor disappointed.

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I hope Akiyama loses, that guy is a coward. He has been caught greasing up with vasaline before against Sakauraba.

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UFC Heavyweight Championship
Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir Hopefully Mir can win, should be a good one.

UFC Welterweight Championship
Georges St. Pierre vs. Thiago Alves

Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping
Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago
Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher
Stephan Bonnar vs. Mark Coleman
Jim Miller vs. Mac Danzig
Dong Hyun Kim vs. T.J. Grant
Jon Jones vs. Jake O’Brien
CB Dollaway vs. Tom Lawlor
Matt Grice vs. Shannon Gugerty


I'm in Germany right now, anyone know where I can stream this at about 3am here haha.

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Everyone is saying that Mir's submission was lucky, random, etc. In a way it was, however, Mir is one of the BEST BJJ submission artists in the game today. He is VERY comfortable on his back and on top, and as we saw in the Nog fight, Mir's striking has IMPROVED vastly. I don't think the first sub on Brock was a fluke, it was Mir waiting for the time to take advantage of his far superior ground game. One thing though is Brock is VERY fast and has an excellent wrestling game. This fight should be very interesting with Brock's superior size, strength, and wrestling, however Mir's superior striking and BJJ. Either way this fight is going to be a war, and I have a feeling will end before the end of round 3.

The Alves/GSP fight is going to be good. I'm eager to see both their game plans. I'm not doubting that GSP is a BEAST and is very well rounded, but I think this is his biggest challenge yet.

I'm not impressed with Paulo Thiago at all. He was dominated the whole fight till he landed that shot on Koscheck that put him out. Now he faces Fitch, a bigger and better wrestler than Kos. I just don't see Thiago coming out of this one with a W.

I really hope Jon Jones wins, if he does, I think he'll get a big push into contention at LHW and onto main cards. Jake O'Brien is the exact definition of lay and pray though. He's one of the most boring fighters I've seen, the question is will Jones be able to stop Jake's takedown's and his superior wrestling.

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Legally, you can purchase off of Yahoo, they stream every UFC online. Illegally, I'm not sure. I hear the free streams are crap anyways might as well wait a day or two and get the PPV.

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What a KO by Hendo! He was charging that right hand ALL FIGHT. GSP straight dominated Alves and IMO the only fighter in the world that has a chance of beating him right now is Anderson and I think we'll see that fight sooner than later. Looking forward to see the fight that laced the mat FULL of blood.

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called the gsp fight, that was an easy one.

Brock is a stupid dick, and an immature champion. He's far from an ambassador to the sport as champion the way gsp, silva and machida are.

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Brock pulled that horseshoe outta Mir's ass and beat him over the head with it. :r Mir got lucky the first time cause the ref pulled Brock off of him after some BS supposed shots to the back of the head. Mir was not that lucky this time. Mir was exposed for the over rated fighter he has always been. Guess Brock proved that pro wrestlers ain't as fake as some people might think. Glad Brock shut the over rated Mir up. Brock will continue to improve with his superior work ethic. Now let's see Fedor and Brock fight that would be a great fight and probably the only person in the MMA world that could give Brock a decent challenge or beat him at this point.

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Brock is a showman and puts asses in the seats and sells PPV's that's what the UFC is about selling tickets and PPV's not being a nice warm and fuzzy champ. Screw being an ambassador, I would rather see a beast with a win at all cost, beat the chit outta the other guy attitude. "The Next Big Thing" is that. It's war in there not a how do i come off looking to the public contest.

I wonder if Brock's Coors taste good tonight lol Budweiser sucks!!

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I'm not even going to comment on your statements. Please go back to watching Monday Night Raw.

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The why did you comment lol. Sore loser huh rofl. Oh and for the record I haven't watched Wrestling in over a year.

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Nope, I could care less who won. But if you had a clue about how far the UFC has come from all the bullshit that it faced years ago, then you would know that Lesnar's actions and comments did nothing but put the sport back. But congrats on not watching the WWE in over a year. Good look.

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Yep.

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You can thank Dana White for that.

Let's see. The last two to three seasons of TUF? Who did they focus on? All the screw ups and bad boys? How about TUF 10 with Kimbo Slice? How about all the trailers for UFC100 focusing on Lesnar and his poor attitude control?

If they really wanted to improve the image of a product would they really want to focus on the worst angles of it?

Dana knows what sells and he's gonna pander to it as much as possible. I think he's gotten the Don King mentality as any publicity is good publicity, as long as it's inside the ring and appropriately covered and promoted by UFC. To him, it's an ends to a mean.

Hell, look at Dana himself. He's gone off and pissed off so many people with his irresponsible comments. The only person that should be looked at is the guy running the show, and how it's marketed and presented only reflects upon Dana's own attitude.

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I have watched the UFC since Royce schooled everyone in the first couple of UFC's. I know the sport well. Lesnar sells tickets and PPV's that's what it has become. Don't get mad cause Lesnar is riding the gravy train. I remember Royce tapping Shammy when shammy was somebody in under 3 minutes with a choke. Let's face it it is all about who sells the most and you can thank Dana and the owners for that. Don't hate the player hate the game bro.

Everyone hated Tito cause he was a "bad boy " but he sold tickets and PPV's.

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gsp and silva probably sell as many as lesnar, and they don't act like roid rage asshats.

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Roids are everywhere in MMA. That's why they test but anything is possible. If lesnar were on the roids he will fail the test eventually . Heck Hendo and Gracie have both tested positive for roids in the past. Of course we know gsp wouldn't cheat or do anything like, say grease up with vasoline. ;) He has been accused of this a couple of times.

Oh and i like watching gsp and I really like watching Silva. Do you remember a healthy young Matt Hughes tapping gsp?

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Go watch ESPN MMA Live and watch Brock retract all his statements, likely after Dana and the Fertitas busted his ass in private due to is idiotic comments. Lesnar sells PPV's, no doubt about it. He appeals to all the WWE drones and all the MMA fans as well. No one is denying that. But to defend his classless behavior is simply foolish. Dana and the Fertitas obviously agree based on Brock's appearance on MMA Live.

Yup, Hughes beat GSP back in the day, so what? GSP is now one of the most dominant P4P fighters ever in MMA.

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Never said he wasn't a great fighter i like watching gsp. Would like to see him and Anderson Silva. Would have liked to see gsp fight in one of the Pride Grand Prix those were awesome or even some of the earlier UFC fights where they had to fight 2-3 times a night to win like Royce did.

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I didn't say or imply that he was on the roids. I said "ACT LIKE roid rage asshats" referring to his behavior. I could have easily said "act like a psychotic asshat" or a "pre-pubescent asshat"

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Lesnar is an ass and hurt the UFC last night. As their most visible star, he should be acting like a sportsman and not a showman, this is UFc and not WWE. Dana white must have ripped him a massive new one because Lesnar showed up at the press conference apologetic drinking a Bud light! The UFC is battling for legitimacy and Lesnar hurts that. I think he is currently untouchable in the ring, he destroyed Mir last night, but outside the ring he can do more damage then he is worth. He is an asshole, not a sportsman and has about as much class as that horseshoe he was talking about.

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That exactly why I don't like the guy. He should pay attention to how these guys act while at work, and he wonders why he gets boo's.

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:hmMaybe I misinterpreted that statement, b/c it's coming off quite offensive to me the way it was said.

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No offense meant.

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It's all good, no harm done. It just seems that us wrestling fans get the sh!t treatment by many people (such as Hollywood and the media). We're not all dumb rednecks.:)

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Well, I just got caught up and gotta say that the card lived up to its potential. Out of all the fights, though, the Hendo knockout of Bisping was #1!! Bet Bisping felt like a bloody idiot for constantly circling into Hendo's right hand... um, 15 seconds after his corner chewed his arse about it. Served him right with all the shite talking in TUF.

I like Mir, and he's got skills, but he doesn't have enough ass to back up the shite talking against a monster like Lesnar. It was a shame to see Lesnar lose his cool, because up until last night he was a class act who did his talking in the ring. Last night he came off as a classless redneck, albeit one hopped up on adrenaline. Mir, on the other hand, came off as a good loser. He's not done yet. The talking's all part of the game.

The GSP fight was decent. Alves isn't going to go much further if he doesn't start to broaden his skills. I think, though, that GSP is gonna keep dominating for awhile. I like the idea of him moving up a class...

Overall, fantastic billing and the best of the past few UFCs. I think they were starting to see a big down turn cause 96-99 pretty much sucked.

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that was a fun ufc to watch. its amazing that hendo can still knock people out at 38. I think nog could take out lesnar if they match that up.

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The Bisbing KO was stellar! Looked like Hendo wanted to smash his jaw with the finishing blow.

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WOW! GREAT card.

While I prefer a more toned down interview and more tact used by people, I'm not down too much on Brock for his crazy ass post-fight interview. It turned me off a bit but he's a highly competitive person that gets drawn in by his emotions too much and this was a bad blood situation. We didn't see this after the Couture fight. Thinking he just took the UFC back to the stone ages is a bit of hyperbole. Lesnar is a character and many times when his blood is pumping it's over the top. But lets not act like he's Tank A. or driving a monster truck "rampaging" the streets.

I've just come around to disliking Mir less than before, so I'm still happy to see Brock Grape Ape pound him. Hopefully Lesnar doesn't become a monotoned person. :rolleyes:

Belcher got robbed.

The KO of awesomeness! I don't think Bisping gave Dan enough respect for him being 38 and didn't believe the hype of his KO ability. And he's just a mouthy cocky lad.
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And Coleman fought like his families next meal was on the line. Good job, Coleman! (And I'm not a fan)

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I"m looking foward to DREAM10 on july 20th. there having the finals for their welterweight tournament. andre galvo is in it and he is supposed to dominate that division for a while. he used to train at blackhouse with anderson silva but I heard that team moved to a different location and changed their name. Shinya Aoki is fighting Vitor Ribeiro. I cant remember the last time 2 bjj guys of this caliber met in a mma match. This is why I love DREAM they put the best against the best and do it often. Paul Filho is making he debut to after getting heckled by WEC fans because they dont like his style, but he might get knocked out if he's not off drugs by a hungry melvin manhoef. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/dream_10

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P.S. I really did like the Coors Lite/Bud Lite comment. :r

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I just read that Mirko Cro Crop was supposed to be on the card but negotiations fell through when lorenzo fertitta flew to croatia to negotiate a contract. thats pretty big time when the exec of zuffa flys to your home to make a deal. bud light and coors both suck anyway, if you want an american beer drink a microbrew.

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I don't know much about UFC, but living here in Minneapolis I've been hearing a lot about Lesnar. As you know, he was a top notch wrestler at the U of M. How come he is so vilified by most UFC fans?

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because he acts like a jerk.

He was named douche bag of the month at bullshido (a martial arts forums)

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I wonder how Muhammad Ali's personality would fare in UFC. I can think of lots of boxers who were jerks. Is the intent of UFC to adopt more of the "respect" attitude of Oriental martial arts? I think that's a good thing, but much different from what most professional fighting has been in the past few decades.

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Not saying what he did was right, but I think that Rampage Jackson is a bigger douche than Lesnar.

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I don't see how you could say that, rampage is even gracious in defeat, and you can tell his style is joking around, unlike lesnar who is very serious about his rage, and just obnoxious.

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lesnar's douchiness just seems so over the top and theatrical. It's like he tried to turn "heel," except this is real athletic competition. You aren't supposed to be a heel or a hero, you're just supposed to compete. Trash talk is normal but giving the crowd the finger and grabbing the microphone to talk about "getting on top of your wife" is WWE stuff.

His wife must have felt like the belle of the ball after that too, btw. Class act.

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His wife isn't any class act either. (I'm assuming that he's still married to Sable)

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http://www.clinchgear.com/clinchpic/...oat-774151.jpg

LOL....

For the record I actually kind of like Bisping. Mainly because he throws a lot of flying knees.

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Great card, and I have no real problem with the trash talking leading up to the fight...for some folks that builds the anticipation. But once the fight is over, a winner is declared, that's when a person's real character comes out. It is bad to be a poor loser, but it's far worse to be a poor winner. While I understand the need to sell tickets, this is still Mixed Martial Arts, and a certain amount of respect is expected as well. Mir showed that, even though I'm not a fan of his, he was a far better loser than Lesnar was a winner.

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Say, anyone find anything from Alves post fight? I have great respect for him but GSP is the man, just want to hear his own thoughts. If you find anything post it up!

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I was interested in what Bisping had to say too. Couldn't find anything.

What? Rampage talks trash just like everyone prefight but is extremely respectful after the fights, even in defeat. Lesnar is trash, straight trash

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People have hated Lesnar since he walked into the UFC with only 1 fight under his belt, lost 1, won 1, and they feel he was given a free ticket to a title match. Though, he took the title and just demolished a "highly" skilled BJ guy to defend his title and avenge his 1st UFC loss.

I'm just happy to see not everyone has to freakin' hug after the fight.:D

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I didn't hate lesner until after he was an ass after his match with herring, after his match with mir. ya he's strong, he's also what, 40 lbs heavier than mir, laying on him with his football field of a chest? Some skill, some lying there. Screw lesnar, piece of ****.