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I bought some Gurkha Regent Toro cigars and have had some issues with the wrapper cracking. I had one last night and the wrapper cracked about 1.5 inches up the length of the cigar when I punched it. I assume this means they might be a little dehydrated. My humidor seems to be holding around 68% RH and I'm wondering how long I should let these sit before they are properly rehydrated?
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Certain Gurkha cigars are infamous for fragile, splitting and exploding wrappers.
Can't really say how long they will need to sit to stabilize without knowing how far off they are, or if this will even help those particular cigars. |
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I do really enjoy the flavor, but the wrapper and draw have been a little challenging on a couple. Also, I just realized this thread is stickied in the accessory forum. My apologies if I posted in the wrong thread. I'm still getting used to the layout here :) |
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You mentioned draw issues, were they tight, like they were plugged? Could you feel a hard spot under or around the band area? |
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2 out of 4 have had some draw and cracking issues. I really enjoyed the ones that smoked well. Are many of the Gurkhas like this? |
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Which is better for humidification, the gel or the boveda packs? I heard the gel you can use for years, just refill with dstilled water, and the packs are only good for a fw months, but I want your opinions.
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Beads (either type) are really the only answer to humidor humidifiaction IMO. Consistent humidity and long lasting. Don't bother with lesser options. ;) |
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Ok I am now confused, Which of these do you suggest, not saying I am getting them, I am just wanting some opinions:
http://www.neptunecigar.com/pr/xikar..._jar_4_oz.aspx http://www.neptunecigar.com/pr/cigel_humidifier.aspx |
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I've had the xikar jar in my 150 for 11 months and it's been locked on 68 on the hygrometer since I put it in.
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I would go with the Ci-Gel as it says to add distilled water. The Xikar say used propylene glycol. The implication is the Ci-Gel itself is the regulator for humidity whereas the Xikar is just a matrix for PG similar to florist foam. I would still use a boveda pack instead of either one. Quote:
No. Xikar does not make beads. Beads are those from Shilalabeads or Heartfelt. Take the free option for now but save some money to get beads. They are really not that expensive. Around $30 a pound which is good for a large humidor. I run 2.5lbs, more than needed actually, in each of my edgestars. |
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Thanks Jason, I was thinkng the gel would be better....I had actually already placed my order, I ordered the 2 oz and the 4oz, but I just called them and changed the order to 2 gels (2 humis) and I will be getting the beads when I am ready...thanks for the info :tu |
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I thought you were going to go with Boveda Packs? I would go with the Boveda packs and stay away from (any kind) gel (Xikar or other brand).
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Living in a place that is 30 Celcius and 73+% humidity all the time, this is a must! |
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I just bought a tube of beads from heartfelt for my humidor. The way I had it set up before was with a generic tube of gel that I had separated from the cigars with a divider. My question is, can I remove the divider and let the tube come in direct contact with the cigars without any chance of harming the cigars. Also would the cigars closest to the tube be more humid than the ones on the other side? I have a 50 count and I bought the tube that is double the required minimum size.
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So I just got a humidor yesterday. I salt tested a digital hygrometer and calibrated it accordingly. Then I placed a shot glass with water in the humidor and closed the lid with the hygrometer inside. The humidity rose to 87%. I took out the glass, placed in some hydrating beads and the humidity has stayed at 68%. Did I get lucky? Most people say it takes at least a few days to season. Should I wait a little longer? I just bought some cigars and they were on the road for 5 days and have been in their bag for an additional two. I would like to get them in as quickly as I can.
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Since 5 this morning.
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If it was me, I would wait until tomorrow morning and see if it changes. If you throw cigars in now and the humidity changes you will not know the reason. Tomorrow if it is still holding true throw them in and see what happens IMHO.
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If you put cigars in an empty humidor the RH will almost surely change. Unless by a stroke of luck the cigars and the empty humi have identical RH.
More often than not, RH in the humi will drop due to the cigars absorbing moisture. Posted via Mobile Device |
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As usual, pnoon has the answer.
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So waiting for another day or more should help? I'm just worried about my cigars drying out in the bag. Cigars are quite the investment for me.
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It can't hurt to wait an extra day or two and it can certainly help. This is not something you want to rush...
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Also does anyone have any recommendations in regards to a machine that can clear up cigar odors pretty well? I am getting an apartment this summer and I don't have anywhere to smoke outside.
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Cigars can be stored for an extended period in a ziploc bag. I have some sitting on my desk that have been there for a month. If you are really worried, put them in a second bag. :2
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Thanks for that recommendation coty. Also, the humidity had dropped to 63 rh after adding a couple of cigars. I have a drymistat tube of crystal gel or whatever it is. Should I add that, or is that not advisable?
Side note: I have the 65% rh beads in there as my humidifier. |
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The beads are all you should need.
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So how low is too low as far as rh goes? I mean I don't think 62 is too much lower than 65 in regards to negatively impacting the cigars, but when should I worry? When its down in the mid 50's? Lastly, when I start adding more cigars, and the humidity keeps dropping, should I just re-season the humidor? Sorry for all the questions, I am a newbie after all.
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I keep my cigars at 62% and they smoke perfectly.
I have heard of some who keep theirs in the high 50s, but I am not experiementing because I've found the RH I like. I would personally be worried if mine dropped below 60 for a significant amount of time. |
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There are lots of threads here that will help you, but the key thing is that you need to be patient. It will not hurt your cigars if they are exposed to a "too-low" or "too-high" RH for a short time. It takes time for your cigars to equalize so don't worry. Also, ziplock bags are your friend! You can always safely put your cigars in a ziplock for extended periods of time while you resolve any issues you might have with your humidor. |
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The cigars I just purchased we already in a ziplock bag when they arrived. So if I leave them in there for another week on top of the week it took for them to arrive, they won't be completely ruined?
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They will be fine.
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Ok good. I am going to re season my humidor properly. Now I've heard varying opinions on this. Some say never to add any water directly to the wood and just let a shot glass of distilled water or a damp sponge sit in there on a baggie for a day or more. Others says apply water to the wood lightly and repeat every half hour until the wood is saturated. What has worked best for you guys?
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So I went with the wipe down method and the sponge retained most of the moisture on the third wipe down which should mean the humidor isn't absorbing as much moisture. Now I'm supposed to wait 24 hours. Should I place the beads in now, or after I wait?
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Someone told me that he stores his cigars in the vegetable drawer of the refrigerator. To the best of my knowledge he is not using any humidification device. Can anyone help me understand why he might do this?
I understand the cold would keep any beetle eggs from hatching. I doubt the drawer would keep consistent humidity. |
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It probably does keep a fairly constant humidity, but in all likelihood it is a lower humidity than would be desirable for cigars...
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