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Im smoking a cuban cohiba lancero i got one my last trip to london and you know what its plugged its **** nothing more nothing less im going to stub it out under my shoe and light up a opus X i got at foxs in saint James street the same place i got this lancero and you know what im going to enjoy it more than this.

Both are good smokes cuban and non-cuban if you only smoke one kind youre a fool if you think you will find a cuban taste in a non-cuban youre a bigger fool they are two different things but both are good at some point.

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I agree, "fool" may be an extreme word though as many (myself included, although I am learning) may just be inexperienced in the world of CCs. If you smoke strong NCs all the time and an occasional CC, you will not taste the subtle nuances of that CC as you are used to such dominating obvious flavors found in NCs.

I smoked NCs everyday, and loved them. I smoked an occasional CC to try it out, and I could never understand the following CC had. I did a personal experiment (Advised by a friend) and quit smoking all NCs for a month while I indulged in tons of CCs and man I am in love now.

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Shady simply means under the table, below board. You don't have to sell drugs on a street corner to be shady. You don't have to be dishonest either. In my opinion shipping product to a place where it is illegal is taking part in a shady deal, especially if it requires "discreet" shipping. To get Cubans in the US you have to show a certain degree of shadiness and disregard the law, so does whoever ships them to you. Hell that might be half the fun.

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:bh
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May be fool is a bit extream but ill stand by it.

CCs take time to get used to this i agree with but dose it make them better than NCs that are good right off the bat IMHO HELL NO

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Do you guys think CCs will lose some of it's 'mysticism' if the embargo were to ever be lifted? But my opinion in regards to this whole matter is that I only smoke particular brands of NC's while me personally haven't had a CC I didn't like.

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I've always heard shady used as a synonym for disingenious, similar to dodgy in British English- in regards to a dealer/source it would mean they were liable to lie, cheat or doublecross you in a deal. A shady dealer is one who might just as soon rob you at gunpoint than give you the stuff, or try to pass off something cut down with oregano or baby powder, or in the case of cigars, a glass-top box of cohibos. Now that's shady. Since it's a term that originated in a context where flouting the law is an accepted part of the game, simply doing something illegal doesn't make you shady- it's breaking the compact of trust with the customer that does. So in that sense, none of my sources are in the least bit shady. :D

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Of course. They will also go way up in price and have a temporary dip in quality as production is ramped up beyond capacity, so all of the noobs will be severely disappointed and think it was always a bunch of hype.

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:tpd:

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Good thing I smoke them for the flavor and not the mysticism. ;)

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Sorry to burst your bubble, but the rest of the world doesn't give a rats ass about your little embargo and vendors outside the US are neither required to obey nor enforce US laws. It's simply impossible to disregard a law that doesn't exist. If you're not breaking any laws then you're not being "shady"... you're serving your customers, and that's just called doing business.

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No need to get so worked up... If you think it isn't shady in any way to ship a product to a place where it is illegal, then I respect your opinion. I don't understand it, but I respect it.

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NC's for me. Just for background info I have smoked several CC ranging in different maracas and most have left me underwhelmed. But, one PSD4 (the 3rd one I smoked) was the best damn cigar I have ever had, the thing was an experience and I went into it pessimistic only to be blown away. Then I bought a whole mess of CC's which I have been smoking this week and they are up there with my NC's but still not what I like. For me when I smoke a cigar and really pay attention to it I can find plenty of flavors. But that PSD4 was different, I was watching the Cards and just picked it on a whim thinking I would S can it and grab a NC. It's just not worth the time, $, and I run a risk with possibly drawing attention to my job. But man, if they all could be like that one CC I would be a CC man.

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I'm not worked up, I just don't get the mentality that labels a business as "shady" for following all applicable laws. If you feel bound to follow the laws of your country that great but doesn't mean that citizens or businesses belongin to other nationalies should feel the same compunction to uphold your law for you. That's just stupid.

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Yes. :tu

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:D Good call.

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Both for me

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Dang, I had to read every post in this thread before someone came up with my answer!

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Don't buy Cuban cigars, don't smoke tobacco, don't speed, don't download music from the internet, don't have sex before marriage, cool whatever floats your boat...your stance on any of these issues doesn't affect my life.

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Some of the Best and Worst Cigars I've smoked were Cubans. Same goes for the NCs... I think the NCs have come a long way in recent years quality and taste wise, whereas the Cubans really haven't made much strides. Don't get caught up in the mystique of the origin or the brand. Trying all different kinds till you find what floats your boat is what makes the whole experience as great as it is...

Enjoy
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